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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:43 PM
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A request for information on the Cheney energy meetings needs to be
filed with the courts. You want to understand ANYTHING, you need to go back to where the first overt criminal acts of conspiracy occurred, and that was with Cheney.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:44 PM
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1. Excellent idea
:thumbsup:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:45 PM
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2. knr
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 12:47 PM by spanone
i haven't heard a really good explanation as to why we paid over four dollars a gallon while the thieves were in office...
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:52 PM
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5. Coulda been the sudden increase in gravity making extraction
of oil all the much more difficult... in other words... someone has a lot of explaining to do.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:45 PM
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3. Absolutely and it should be done soon before the SCOTUS changes
its mind.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:51 PM
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4. Yep, yep, yep. K&R n/t
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 12:56 PM
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6. A reinvestigation in the days leading up to and about 9/11 would be good, too
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 12:56 PM by Whoa_Nelly
The put option, the memos, the evidence of thermite, and so many other questions that have been begging to be answered, but have been swept under the (Bush Oval Office) rug.


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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:03 PM
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8. 9/11 was Christmas, Easter, and every other holiday imaginable for these
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 01:07 PM by acmavm
guys. It was the EXCUSE to act on whatever they hatched back in those meetings. I have 4 maps that were released years ago that show the areas oils fields, how much oil did they think was in each particular field, how was developing them, and on those not being developed who had the options. Too bad I don't know how to post from my computer to here. They're very enlightening.

These maps:
CHENEY ENERGY TASK FORCE DOCUMENTS FEATURE MAP OF IRAQI OILFIELDS


Commerce & State Department Reports to Task Force Detail Oilfield & Gas Projects, Contracts & Exploration

Saudi Arabian & UAE Oil Facilities Profiled As Well



(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, said today that documents turned over by the Commerce Department, under court order as a result of Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit concerning the activities of the Cheney Energy Task Force, contain a map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals, as well as 2 charts detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.” The documents, which are dated March 2001, are available on the Internet at: www.JudicialWatch.org.

The Saudi Arabian and United Arab Emirates (UAE) documents likewise feature a map of each country’s oilfields, pipelines, refineries and tanker terminals. There are supporting charts with details of the major oil and gas development projects in each country that provide information on the projects, costs, capacity, oil company and status or completion date.

Judicial Watch has been seeking these documents under FOIA since April 19, 2001. Judicial Watch was forced to file a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (Judicial Watch Inc. v. Department of Energy, et al., Civil Action No. 01-0981) when the government failed to comply with the provisions of the FOIA law. U.S. District Court Judge Paul J. Friedman ordered the government to produce the documents on March 5, 2002.

The documents were produced in response to Judicial Watch’s on-going efforts to ensure transparency and accountability in government on behalf of the American people. Judicial Watch aggressively pursues those goals by making FOIA requests and seeking access to public information concerning government operations. When the government fails to abide by these “sunshine laws” Judicial Watch files lawsuits in order to obtain the requested information and to hold responsible government officials accountable.

“These documents show the importance of the Energy Task Force and why its operations should be open to the public,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

C:\My Documents\Cheney energy task for docs - oil fields.htm




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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:02 PM
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7. True! We need to know their original plan to place a pipeline through Afghanastan.
Back in early March(?) of 2001 They tried to make a deal with the Taliban who
originally agreed to place the pipeline through Afghanastan until the Taliban found out that
none of the profits were going to them, they stopped the deal.
Cheney's response:....."We'll carpet-bomb em"
And he did.Along with the WTC and Iraq.
What a tough SOB, eh?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:21 PM
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9. Exactly goforit! EXACTLY! Theres's the ORIGINAL conspiracy I believe.
If we could crack that nut we'd go a long ways toward actually obtaining the evidence we need to use against these traitors. They started this war for CORPORATE AMURIKA.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:43 PM
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10. It'd be great to get our hands on that,
but I'd be surprised if those records haven't been shredded and deleted a long time ago, out of fear of exactly this eventuality. The Republicans know that all they have to do is say that the records can't be found, or that they were accidentally destroyed, and they're basically home free. People can suspect or accuse them of anything at that point, but as long as nothing can be proven with hard evidence, they don't care. That's been their modus operandi for years.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 01:47 PM
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11. Then they need to be made to say they're destroyed, or lost, or gone.
Show the conspiracy started up right from the get-go.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:08 PM
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12. I don't think they'd have any problem with it
Lying like that comes as naturally as breathing to these people.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:10 PM
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13. I would be content
if someday soon, the news reported that crash cart didn't get one.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 03:17 PM
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14. I won't. We need all the conspirator's names.
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