For FOX News watchers, apparently history has rewritten overnight. Now FDR is the worst president

ever, apparently, and the New Deal is the worst thing to ever happen. Who knows what untold riches every American would be swimming in if it weren't for FDR's horrible backwards policies, and how much more quickly we would have come out of the Depression.

Apparently it's a well known fact, and universally accepted by all, that you can't spend your way out of a recession, and that FDR was wrong. Neil Cavuto told me this.

Apparently the America that elected FDR all those times was dreadfully mistaken.

I suppose all it takes is for 2/3 of the nation's population to be thinned out by starvation, death from exposure/homelessness, and rioting and race wars over a few years, and before you know it, there's money and resources aplenty for everyone left!

They are gasping for their last breath.
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You know, "old man yells at cloud". He keeps saying that we'll all be sorry when we find out that "Obama has been deceiving us all!"

I have no idea to what he's referring and I really don't want to find out!

I think that should be the new icon for Repuke bloviation.

Reg: They've taxed us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, not just from us, from our fathers and from our fathers' fathers.

Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.

Reg: Yes.

Stan: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

Reg: All right, Stan. Don't labor the point. And what have they ever given us in return? (he pauses smugly)

Xerxes: Social Security?

Reg: What?

Xerxes: Social Security.

Reg: Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That's true.

Masked Commando: And Civil Rights!

Stan: Oh yes ... Civil Rights, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like.

Reg: All right, I'll grant you that the Social Security and Civil Rights are two things that the Democrats have done ...

Matthias: And Public Works ...

Reg: (sharply) Well yes obviously Public Works... the roads go without saying. But apart from the Social Security, the Civil Rights and Public Works ...

Another Masked Commando: Electrification ...

Other Masked Voices: Medicare ... Education ... Health

Reg: Yes ... all right, fair enough ...

Commando Nearer The Front: And repealing prohibition ...

General Audience: Oh yes! True!

Francis: Yeah. That's something we'd really miss if the Democrats left, Reg.

Masked Commando At Back: Clean environment!

Stan: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now.

Francis: Yes, they certainly know how to keep order ... (general nodding) ... let's face it, they're the only ones who could in a place like this. (more general murmurs of agreement)

Reg: All right ... all right ... but apart from Social Security and Civil Rights and education and electrification and health care and roads and a clean environment and public order ... what have the Democrats done for us?

Xerxes: Brought peace!

Reg: (very angry, he's not having a good meeting at all) What!? Oh ... (scornfully) Peace, yes ... shut up!

Where's it from?

Spoofing Life of Brian.

It would be an instant hit as soon as the first Python freak finds it.

It is a metaphor; my refusal to wear a skin of any particular color.

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It is a metaphor; my refusal to wear a skin of any particular color.


(I Just realized I posted my earlier reply to a different thread than the one I intended)

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But let's not forget the 40 hour work week and minimum wage!

And I thought Stan went by Loretta these days...

hadn't had one, this country would have had its own little communist revolution.

Q. Didn't Roosevelt carry out the socialist platform?

A. Yes, in a coffin

America's infrastructure rebuilt, and not a contractor in sight!

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Why the fuck isn't the Business Plot in the history books? Nevermind, I know why.

It's just that it wasn't until 57 years later that the coup succeeded.

They would have to concede he was doing something right.

Those idiots over there never cease to amuse.

It must really hurt to be that stupid.


<---- ... and speaking of stupid.

You presume too much, I fear. Their mission is to convey immediate negative vibes to the limbic systems of the Booboisie whenever FDR or Obama is mentioned. Think Pavlov. All that hifalutin rationality stuff is excess baggage.

I have been warning you about. These are the fascists. Thier media pumps out misinformation 24/7 and there is little to counter it.

One thread with wingnuts...they need something to fear. Be it Russia/Communism, Iraq/A-rabs, "liberuls"/socialists...its one boogie man and straw man after another. They make convenient scapegoats for the right's own ineptitude and arrogance...projecting their failure or their fears on these boogie men that enables them to carry on their parallel universe.

Facts mean nothing to these dreamers...just narratives and anyone who can create on that fits the agenda is immediately an "expert" on Faux Noise and hate radio.

I hope the repugnicans continue to obstruct...showing once and for all which American they truly represent. They'll be out of power for decades to come, just like they were during the 30's and 40's.

Tucker Carlson was on and said it
Mika backed him up
Mike Barnacle (hosting in Joe's place) took them apart for it.

Republicans in lock-step with Rush and all the other stooges told Clinton his Budget would bankrupt America. It was impossible, they said, to raise taxes during a major recession and try and spend our way out of recession. Clinton's Budget was passed by one vote only, Al Gore's tie breaking vote. America went on to experience "The Greatest Economic Expansion in History" The exact same people that have been so consistantly wrong on every single issue are at it again and they get top billing by the MSM..

And 1994 brought us the Contract on America. :scared:

... the New Deal really was the worst thing to ever happen in this country. It disproved their theoretical basis, and demonstrated to the public just how liberalism can work for all of us. It set the conservative movement back more effectively than anything else ever did. They've been trying to "undo the damage" it caused them ever since.

They equate hero Hoover with Bush and failure FDR with Obama.

That the establishment of the Federal Reserve is the basic cause of the Depression, because it was the government controlling the economy and of course that wouldn't work per their theory.

per their theory -- even their theory.

"The only difference between Communism and Libertarianism is that at least Communism made sense on paper."

Clinton's fault until 1-20-09 when it became Obama's fault.

They don't want the New Deal to have worked or it spoils their theory. So they resort to how government regulation is at fault for the Depression (never mind the speculation bubbles of the 20s - or maybe they figure those occurred due to going off the gold standard). Then when we got out of the Depression, it wasn't the New Deal but the war. People who couldn't buy food were willing to invest in weapons and tanks. We still have a bit of the mentality that war is good to fix a bad economy, and it may come from these idiots.

Well, unless you live in the three dimensional universe, rather than their 2 dimensions. They think everything in economics works according to a x/y graph. Never mind that there are a dozen other variables controlling both x and y.

Since i don't live in two dimensions, to me their theory is a cartoon.
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They depict an ideal two dimensional universe.

The notion that things might be more complicated than "because it's what i believe" never occurred to her or any of the minions who are fans of her work.

And yet, their opinions hold sway in this country, especially regarding economics. That is depressing.
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all the geezers who worship Faux News to begin sending their Social Security checks back tomorrow.

The US would have continued to toil in depression throughout the 1930s, leaving a much weakened and turmoltous country by the 1940s. All of Europe would have fallen and Hitler would probably have crossed the Atlantic and invaded here.

But, you know, if you are up for that type of thing, then yeah, FDR was the worst presdient.

It is much like Christians and creationism. Anything that shows creationism to be false is erroneous.

Anything that shows conservative ideology to be wrong minded is erroneous.

I have a boss who is still preaching that the way to fix this economy is to have laissez-faire free market capitalism. She does not see any connection to todays problems and the last 8 years of conservative policies. It just blows my mind!

Remember. Those who hear voices, talk to immaginary friends, and choose superstition over science are not necessarily the best source for news and historic interpretations.

If their lips are moving, then they are lying.

1)collecting unemployment
2) living on social security
3) concerned that their bank may fail. (FDIC anyone??)

If it weren't for these things and many more, I think this would be far worse than it is right now, eh?

Same level of obvious bull.

Because he's the only one in over a hundred years who was elected with such a sweeping majority and yet didn't get re-elected.

this is SOP for the RIGHT, regardless of who squaks

The constant post-inauguration anti-Obama bitching has shown every last person capable of even a single independent thought that they're nothing but right-wing propaganda. Yes, we always knew it, but the immediate and constant attacks on a democrat newly elected has made it completely transparent. They no longer have even implausible deniability. They are on the fast-track to being nothing more than a punchline.

Really, this is one of the first things we need to see. I know Obama has a shitload on his plate (thanks, GWB) but this can't be put off for long -- the Money$treamMedia under Bu**sh** rules only provides aid and comfort to wingnut propagandists. I hope BHO puts a real First Amendement champion in charge of the FCC.