Fucking outrageous: Family planning stripped from stimulus bill

WHY are we caving to this? WHY? With the economy in this "downturn"...an unplanned pregnancy could be the difference between survival...or not.:mad:


Dear xxxxxx

I'm stunned. We've just confirmed news reports that provisions
to expand access to affordable family planning will be stripped
from the economic stimulus bill. Removing this provision is a
betrayal of millions of low-income women, and it will place an
even greater burden on state budgets that are already strained
to the breaking point.

We need you to take action now by calling the White House and
voicing your support for the Medicaid Family Planning State
Option. Call the White House comment line at 202-456-1111 to
speak out now -- click here for more details on what to say, and
to let us know you called:
I was frustrated when I saw a parade of legislators and talking
heads on television this weekend spreading false information
about this commonsense bill. House Minority Leader John Boehner
even claimed that the provision would cost millions of dollars
-- when the fact is it would save the federal government $700
million over 10 years.

I was even more shocked to read today that congressional leaders
have taken these false arguments seriously and will remove
family planning provisions from the stimulus bill. It's time for
Washington to hear from the millions of Americans who support
commonsense policies that invest in health care and help ease
the economic downturn.

Call the White House at 202-456-1111 -- it's a quick and easy
way to make a big impact. Click here for more details on what to
say, and to report back to Planned Parenthood on your call:

Let me be clear. The Medicaid Family Planning State Option is a
simple way to make health care affordable for millions of
Americans. It would do two important things:

1. It would allow millions of women to obtain basic health
care. It would extend safety-net health care coverage for
millions who are losing their jobs and health insurance in the
economic downturn. Studies estimate that 2.3 million low-income
women would receive coverage under this provision by 2014, and
500,000 women would be able to avoid unintended pregnancies.

2. In these difficult times, this provision would save states
money. State budgets are being squeezed by the economic
downturn, just as millions are losing their jobs and health
insurance. The Medicaid Family Planning State Option not only
would help states extend their coverage, it would generate
savings for states and the federal government by expanding
access to preventive care.

Please, take two minutes now to help us raise a public outcry.
Click here for details you can use on your call, and to let us
know you spoke out:
Thank you so much for speaking out, and please stay tuned for
more details on this critical issue.

Sincerely,

Cecile Richards, President
Planned Parenthood Federation of America

It barely fits into the purpose of the bill. Let it go to vote seperately.

It doesn't help anyone's credibility to start stuffing necessary legislation with tangentially related riders.

Let them stand and pass on their own.

It really isn't a stimulus. I know it is needed, but it can be brought back in another bill.

And I don't think any of it is really 'stimulus' spending, to be frank, but if other medical stuff is in there, then this needs to be there too.

Mass transit has taken a huge hit in favor of highways also.

It stinks.

She made a lot of sense, and tried to couch it in terms men could appreciate--dollars and cents.

Wouldn't it?

Personal responsibility is free.

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:shrug:

That's a new one.

and you do know that boyfriends and husbands rape their partners?

How many of those are due to rape?

It's quite clear that you're upset and hysterical over...something, who knows? But you've gone off the deep end with your claims in this thread.

With your condescension and mightier than thou tone.
Contraception IS responsible and it is much cheaper to provide THAT than medical care for a pregnant woman and then that child.

I said nothing that was sexist, and you know it. But go ahead and have that little fantasy if it makes you feel good.

Looks like we agree that there is a measure of responsibility to be taken by both partners. Good deal.

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Some diseases don't get transferred via semen.

At least contraception stops babies and there are treatments for most STDs. However, with sexuality, as with general health, an ounce of prevention vs a pound of cure. Food for thought. And I hate those magazine articles with the magical drugs and smiling person in the background. A sheer lie; the drugs for some of those STDs cause nasty side-effects. It is not worth half the aftermath by being irresponsible.

But that's just the women's and kids' problem, right?

If an insurance or Medicaid pays for Viagra, it should also pay for birth control.

For I agree with you.

100%.

Sex education needs to tell more than the biological basics. It's about self-respect, respect for one's sexual partner, and repercussions which include disease or unwanted children. Cheating is disrespectful. So is impregnating someone and not taking the responsibility for their part in the baby making.

I tolerate abortion and I'd never force it on anyone, but I certainly don't like it that a life has to be expunged because somebody forgot their condom or preferred to use it to make a balloon doggie or giraffe. And, true, we have to work on post-birth living conditions as well.

We are sexual beings, true -- nobody is going to deny that. It's pretty obvious; most species tend to require sexuality.

We also happen to be human beings. We are not bunny rabbits. Personal responsibility, which includes thinking of the one you're with, is important. This is why I loathe one night stands. It's impersonal and some humans are also conniving and hurtful by nature. (Even when you do trust, it's possible they might cheat and that truly stinks; the devolved pigs...)

It's a complex issue. But there's nothing complex about self-respect and having respect for others.

to express your displeasure to Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and to Obama.

Poor women's needs should not come last.

addressed at a later time. They got something now, fruitless to complain down the road..IMO of course.

which will come later will include it and will pass easily because it was knocked out once already. I'd imagine Obama knew very well that this would be a point of contention for the pukes, but that it would let him say, "okay, we're compromising, we'll remove this from the bill, now let's move on and pass this thing." The pukes feel that they "won" this battle, but they have just been played, yet again by a masterful and shrewd Obama.

I expect the first major health bill that comes to congress will include this exact family planning outline and that it will pass.

He's a few moves ahead, always.

Don't they have choices, like several inexpensive methods of preventing unwanted pregnancies, including the option of not being totally irresponsible and getting pregnant?

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Vent your faux anger all you want. You're tiresome.

I wonder if it is on purpose.

There are also methods that are free, if you know what you're doing.

It doesn't matter if you know what you're doing -- they don't work.

My best frined is a result of that "BC" method.

In the meantime, I get the general impression that the poster we're answering doesn't know the first damn thing about it.

Julie

We all know how well those virginity vows work out. :eyes:

A: Parents.

the Stimulus Legislation gives the GOP a way to get on every program
and ridicule the Stimulus.

This type program (STD) is noble but it becomes an earmark when
put into the Broader Stimulus.

The STD Program should be considered but at a later time.

Why does our party insist on marginalizing the President's Legislation.

Since this party is so intent on marginalizing them.

were talking about building roads and getting people back to work. I understand the problems with an unexpected pregnancy but I think this needs to be addressed separately or else the stimulus will look like a liberal's wet dream.

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I don't think they are taking away the spending already in place for this, they are just not adding new money. Granted we probably could use it as I have no doubt more women are requesting services now that the job is lost and so are the medical benefits.

It was a tough sell to begin with, and with the immediacy this bill requires as it relates to direct economic impact, it probably wasn't the best place for it. I'm sure in the future it will be passed along with something else, but taking it out of THIS bill was just simply good politics with good logic. Not a rational thing outrageous about it.

It's like spotting a rare butterfly.

so they'd have something to take out and appear to be appeasing the dickhead right...which in turn gets the stimulus passed in return for trading out something they never expected to keep.

Just a thought.

I'm pretty sure it will be back in short order, and with the intention of being passed. If pulling this keeps hundreds of thousands of teachers from getting laid off (see: NYT today), it was a worthy retreat, and we'll get it back in a different bill.

Every major bill has them, and this one seemed perfect to fill the role.

You know what would not be a bad idea is to ask every couple who makes over $100k a year to have a baby in the name of increasing spending and fixing the economy. If we had a rich baby boom right now that would flood the economy with new dollars.

You have been incredibily ignorant over the past few months.

I'll take that as a compliment.

call her a lot of things, but ignorant of politics is a laugh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecile_Richards

Cecile Richards is the current president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. She previously founded and served as president of America Votes, a coalition of more than thirty national organizations. Before that she was deputy chief of staff to Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic majority leader in the U.S. House of Representatives. She has also worked at the Turner Foundation.
She is the daughter of former Texas governor Ann Richards. She attended St. Stephen's Episcopal School in Austin, Texas and graduated from Brown University in 1980. In 1995, she founded the Texas Freedom Network. She is married to Kirk Adams, a labor organizer with the Service Employees International Union, and has three teenage children. She lives in New York City.

The sooner women create alternatives to total dependence on Left , the greater our chances for freedom and equality.

Rick Warren/Obama Alliance is designed to be mutually beneficial to them---throw in Obama's silence on plight of women in certain Muslim countries is to see handwriting on the wall.

Obama did.....

He had an opportunity to stand strong for women's health and women in poverty and he chose to strengthen his alliance with backward religious leaders who will deliver votes to him.

Contraception should be a key player for a successful stimulus. :silly:

all the republicons did was go on tv and snicker and talk about how obama put contraceptives in a stimulus bill, making dirty little jokes about what exactly would be stimulated by this.

they are such motherfuckers.

football once again? I notoce that theire is still NOTHING on FOCA and it was "promised that it would be the very first legislation signed. Well, it wasn't was it? Whatever.Political mCapital could have been used to get it out od committee but I guess as a "fringe" issue it it wasn't "important enough.:sarcasm: But its all okay. We are funding family planning overseas! ( not that that isn't a good thing but American women should be helped first!

Health & Human Services...

That would be a sensible solution that can be done without holding up the stimulus plan.