Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

EXCLUSIVE: Holder assures GOP on interrogation prosecution

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:49 PM
Original message
EXCLUSIVE: Holder assures GOP on interrogation prosecution
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 01:50 PM by kpete
Source: Washington Times

EXCLUSIVE: Holder assures GOP on interrogation prosecution
Eli Lake
Wednesday, January 28, 2009

MICHAEL CONNOR/THE WASHINGTON TIMES Senate Republicans want clarification on how Attorney General-designate Eric H. Holder Jr. will handle U.S. interrogation methods at Guantanamo Bay and whether agents will face prosecution.

President Obama's choice to run the Justice Department has assured senior Republican senators that he won't prosecute CIA officers or political appointees who were involved in the Bush administration's policy of "enhanced interrogations."

Sen. Christopher "Kit" Bond, a Republican from Missouri and the vice chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said in an interview with The Washington Times that he will support Eric H. Holder Jr.'s nomination for Attorney General because Mr. Holder assured him privately that Mr. Obama's Justice Department will not prosecute former Bush officials involved in the interrogations program.

Mr. Holder's promise apparently was key to moving his nomination forward. Today, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 17-2 to favorably recommend Holder for the post. He is likely to be confirmed by the Senate soon.

Read more: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/28/exclusive-holder-assures-gop-torture-prosecution/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. Are we supposed to believe a report of Kit Bond in the Washington Times?
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 01:51 PM by Mass
Definitively two sources I do not believe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
37. I agree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:51 PM
Response to Original message
2. NNNNOOOOOO. Please. Say it ain't so. Arrrgggghhh
Not Holder - Yes, by all means, put him in place - but PLEASE no promises to let the criminals off the hook!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:52 PM
Response to Original message
3. HE can still go after Gonzo, Rummy, Darth Cheney and aWoL. Fire up the prosecutions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:52 PM
Response to Original message
4. Some are above the law.
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 01:52 PM by mmonk
That's forever now. We're no more free than any prisoner. It's all a GD LIE.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Because you believe this article from a moonie paper?\nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. I will wait for confirmation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:56 PM
Response to Original message
6. I don't believe a word of the Washington Times.
It would be irresponsible for Holder to make such a promise. I'll wait to hear from a more credible source.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Good point. Most unreliable source after Fox News. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:57 PM
Response to Original message
7. If this is true, I am done. It means Obama's Administration is willing to protect criminals.
I mean it - the evidence is there, prosecute! No assurances of protection!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. I doubt it is true... and there is wiggle room here.... for Obama and Holder:
They can always say OOOPS, Holder was mistaken, or OOOPS that was before they knew more bad stuff about Bush Co.

If my sense of timing is right, we should see Bush, Rummy, Darth, and all the rest on trial in the summer of 2010....but in an INTERNATIONAL COURT of war crimes.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:58 PM
Response to Original message
9. How embarrassing will it be for us if some OTHER country prosecutes them and WE don't. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. I bet that will happen too.
the UN is already talking about building a case against Rummy. If another country takes the lead on this we all feel like jerks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
11. I won't support him
unless he promises not to prosecute me if I rob a bank.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Nor me unless he promises me I can kidnap my neighbor
and hold him in my basement indefinitely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
13. I wouldn't want to prosecute the lower end of the ladder - go for the ones who gave the orders
I have no problem with the assurance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. I don't understand your logic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #13
28. So low-level Nazis who murdered Jews were okay by you, since they were following orders?
How utterly repugnant.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
14. Despicable if true. How can the top lawman in the land agree NOT to prosecute BEFORE knowing..
...the facts?

This had better not be true...Just who the fuck do these republicans think they are?

Hello!!! DUMMYCRATS WE WON THE FUCKING ELECTION!!!! START ACTING LIKE IT!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:32 PM
Response to Original message
16. If this is true the Holder Nomination must be withdrawn on the appearance of political corruption.
At this point I'm more interested in Mr. Holders side of this story. This could be disinformation. Personally I'm not as interested in prosecuting intelligence agents as those that authorized the acts. I would not be opposed to immunity in exchange for testimony concerning authorization.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:38 PM
Response to Original message
17. I don't believe this, Leahy and Whitehouse got down hard
on Cornyn and Specter about this whole thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:38 PM
Response to Original message
18. I'll wait for better data, thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:45 PM
Response to Original message
21. They talk about the underlings...
if only, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and a few others at the top are prosecuted, I can live with that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
22. How can they have the power to do this?
They have no leverage to make any demands. Either they vote to confirm him or not, and all of the Republicans can vote against him and he could still be confirmed. What am I missing here?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:11 PM
Response to Original message
23. this better not be true.
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 03:14 PM by Piewhacket

I don't know what they said privately, but i have to doubt
holder said anything of the kind, whatever Bond thought or
claims he heard.

Anyway Bonds has such a rep as a POS and LIAR, I'll wait for
another source before getting annoyed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
24. Oh fucking A!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
25. I'm glad to see the GOP lies can still whip us into hatred
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 03:26 PM by CitizenPatriot
for our own with no proof. Now we think Obama won't prosecute based on this guy's "word"?

This guy says Holder gave him this assurance in "private"?

That's really odd...since when asked, Holder told everyone he could not make a judgment until the facts of each case were presented to him. He then went on to say that water-boarding WAS torture. So, enhanced interrogations are not water boarding...but I need more info and a reliable source before I bite at this one.

This "article" seems more GOP meme of the day bullshit.

They suggest what a political storm it would be for Obama to prosecute? Come on. Who would benefit if we all believed that? I highly doubt that this is true. Perhaps when the truth comes out, there will be a kernel of a trail to the truth from this statement. Something which means almost exactly opposite of this take on it.

Two days ago everyone hated Caroline because of her alleged "tax problems"...turns out that was leaked from the GOP. A few days ago everyone was pissed about the stimulus because it wouldn't work, based on a report which was leaked by the GOPO and turns out to be a report on one teeny section of the stimulus and therefor was presented completely without accuracy or respect for the facts. a Report that the authoring agency basically says NEVER existed.

I'm sensing the GOP's desperation to drive the headlines, like they have for the past 8 years at least. They know the accusations will stick in people's minds more than the retractions later.

Caroline, wherefore art thou?

edited to add: I hope Kit Bond puts down the bottle long enough to face reality at some point in there near future.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. We're used to cowardice from Dems. It'll take some time to trust again.
NT!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. I know...it's tough, but we need to be vigilant re the source!
otherwise, they win as they pit us against our own leadership!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chusmeria Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
26. It's like people don't understand that on most foreign and domestic issues
Electing Barack Obama did nothing. Yay, he closed Gitmo... kinda. Then he authorized more attacks on Pakistan, just like Bush would have done. I mean, the guy promised to do all these things including to not look back at the past, which means he's not going to understand or correct those mistakes. That means the people he appoints will as well. Bush is going to get off, and there isn't anything that we can do about it. The economic stimulus package will be rife with tax cuts for the wealthy because even if he won, the bill has to go through committees with Republicans trying to sabotage it. Get over it. Our country is fucked. Just sit back and watch the crash. It's coming, and for those who are optimistic enough to believe that an injection of MORE fiat money will save us, you're about as smart as the Republicans have been for the past 30 years. Get back into school, the upper education system is going to be one of the few things rescued while the rest of public education is going to collapse beneath it. Glad I was lucky enough to be in my early 20s during this whole shit mess instead of in my teens, going through a public education system whose baseline and cap are both NCLB. Partisanship will not work when you've got Republican douchebags, and Democrats who got elected by being as conservative as those douchebags (like the dude who picked up Santorum's seat).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. What's wrong with attacks on Pakistan?
}( :evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
27. If true, I will not vote for Obama again.
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 04:45 PM by Zhade
I simply will not vote at all, because if we got someone THIS good and he's willing to let criminals who torture people walk, then I'm fucking done with politics.

EDIT: oh thank goodness, I just saw that this was from the Moonie Times. So it's likely pure bullshit.

Better be.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 04:47 PM
Response to Original message
29. Washington Times is lying Rev Sun Myung Moon rag...
I wouldn't take anything they said for fact if it was delivered by God personally.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
31. REFUTED!!! here:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:32 PM
Response to Original message
34. Shameful. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
35. Washington Times - source is questionable
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:42 PM
Response to Original message
36. So, maybe not for "interrogations", but what about for TORTURE?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fgiriun Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
38. Regardless...
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 07:47 PM by Fgiriun
...on whether that article is true or not the fact is that, unfortunately, the rich republicans have a tendency to be over the law. Its possible to prosecute the entire Bush administration and legitametely find a great amount of evidence but there will always be the invisible hand that will set these people free from the grip of justice.

The International Criminal Court resolution has not been ratified by the U.S. and therefore they cannot prosecute America's criminals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
39. You are spreading crap from the Wash Times? Shame, shame. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:04 PM
Response to Original message
40. "Holder aide rebukes WashTimes report: Holder Has Made No Decisions On Prosecuting Bush Officials"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 10:22 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC