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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:55 PM
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Should Gitmo be Used for Those Who Raped and Pillaged our Economy?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Should-Gitmo-be-Used-for-T-by-Thom-Hartmann-090129-572.html

by Thom Hartmann

Years ago, reporters for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer are reporting this week, the FBI knew that home mortgage scams were being perpetrated by banks all across the country. They told the Bush Administration, and were denied agents or resources to pursue their cases.

Two years ago then-New York Governor Elliot Spitzer tried to prosecute banks - along with governors or attorneys general of all 50 states - for just these types of crimes and the Bush administration used an obscure Civil War era law to stop him.

Today we learn that the very hustlers who helped destroy our economy, the so-called "investment bankers" at Morgan Stanley and AIG (who have gotten billions of our taxpayer dollars in the recent bailouts) will be getting their bonuses this year, to the tune of $1.13 million in cash for the 400 brokers at AIG.

But while they should be denied their bonuses, the criminals for whom we should re-open Gitmo are Phil Gramm, John Boner, and the other Republicans who changed laws reaching back to the Republican Great Depression of the 1930s to prevent exactly these types of scams.

a bit more at the link above --

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:56 PM
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1. No. What's bad for the goose is bad for the gander. NT
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:58 PM
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2. KKKKKarl Rove, Wall Street thieves who take 18b in bonuses while
stealing our bailout money ..........
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:59 PM
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3. Hell yes!
Investigate them, and if found guilty throw them in Gittmo! Or better yet, the hell with the trial just do as Bush did and claim them "terrorists" and lock them up and throw away the key! Bush can share a room with Rush because Rush has to be a terrorist, he wants the president to fail, and we all know that Rush called all those who disagree with Bush on the war "terrorists!
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:00 AM
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4. What was that thing the French used back in the 1700's? n/t
Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 12:00 AM by nebenaube
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:00 AM
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5. Only piece of shit hypocrites criticize bush torturing people, then suggest the very same.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 12:00 AM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Typo.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:01 AM
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6. And yet the death penalty still exists for muder...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:09 AM
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13. Don't look at me.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:01 AM
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7. where EXACTLY does he advocate the use of torture?
:eyes:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:05 AM
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11. Oh - I get it. He didn't say the *word*, therefore it's not what is *meant*. GENIUS!!!!
I apologize profusely. Clearly he meant an all expense paid trip to the Club Med at Gitmo!

How could I have been so wrong.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:01 AM
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8. Usually, I agree with Thom. I don't this time.
Guantanamo is a stain on this country, and should be returned to Cuba. We have enough prisons to hold those other crooks.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:03 AM
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9. Federal prison will do well enough.
Turn Gitmo into an American tourist destination. :evilgrin:

http://www.federalprison.com/
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:03 AM
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10. No.
I understand the sentiment but Gitmo and everything it stands for is blood on all our hands - with the exception of the few American who really have gone to DC with pitchforks and torches.

That said, I can't even dream up a punishment bad enough for them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:08 AM
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12. Best idea in a long time...True Justice
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 12:41 AM
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14. NO! Not in my country.
We have a justice system that is adequate and appropriate for our needs. An end to the non-authorised two tiered justice system is needed though. The richest and the poorest citizen of America should be subject to the exact same laws. Those laws need to be enforced or if those laws prove lacking they need to be reviewed and changed.

btw: Those within our government who approved torture should not be subject to state authorised torture either.

I listened in while Thom Hartmann spoke about this topic this morning. I did not get the impression, (from the show itself), that he personally felt that ANYONE needed to be transferred from ANYWHERE to Gitmo. If I recall correctly, he said that America is the only nation which operates a gulag style prison on foreign soils, a state of affairs he decried. I thought he made the further claim that Cuba would like it if we shut Gitmo down period and he agreed with the Cubans on this.

Although I don't have the transcripts from the show to back me up, I was left with the overall impression that Hartmann felt that was Gitmo (and other gulags like it) is just plain wrong.
Thom Hartmann is a damn smart guy, if he in any way advocated for sending folks to Gitmo it would have been purely tongue-in-cheek imo. The sourced article from: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Should-Gitmo-be-Used-f...
does not have enough context from the Thom Hartmann show to back up what I feel are Hartmann's true feelings on this topic.
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