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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:00 PM
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Still trying to figure out real "right-wing values."
To me, it seems that whatever else they say they value, what right-wingers really value, above all else is:

--Power (and those who hold it)
--Authority (and those who exert it)
--Loyalty (in the face of all contrary evidence suggesting that your loyalty is not well placed)
--Obedience (to those with power and who convey authority, earned or unearned, whether their orders are right or wrong)
--Faith (in the absence of any proof)

Anyone else got any clues?
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IanBean Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:05 PM
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1. evil
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:10 PM
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2. there really aren't any "values"
they just desire the maximum personal wealth and power.

they will pretend to believe anything that will convince others to help them get it.

sadly, America is populated with enough shallow, gullible, ignorant people to allow them to get away with seizing almost complete power and all but destroying the country every generation or so.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:21 PM
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5. And remember:
All the above is viewed by them as their divine birthright. They are proof of "manifest destiny". They are The New Royalty.

And just a royalty has done in the past, they get their "lessers" to be willing dupes, tools for their machinations.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:06 PM
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12. The trappings of the "elitists" get them every time...Since this nation's
inception, thee have been those who have believed more in an English type fiefdom, than any form of democratic-republic.

This notion is as old as the hills, and as long as there are humans, there are some who believe they should, by the very nature of their position at birth, be overlords of others. When Reagan was elected president, there was a big whoop-te-do about him having ties to the British Royal Family, the same thing happened with little boots, for a bit there were writes ups about his being tied to some Royalty by some odd blood/time line. Suddenly, there was this whole spat of stuff of him being a Texan, and it was essential that he not be seen as a spoiled Connecticut Frat Boy. My suspicion is, that the "cowboy look" came about so that the well heeled and perked up life of a rich kid New Englander would be overlooked, or more like swept under the rug so to speak.

bush, like some of his Tory predecessors, had everything handed to him, and was encouraged to skate through life w/an irresponsible attitude, because he was "born better than others" and was basically unaccountable to anyone for their actions, you see the same thing in his father and in Jeb.

What the GOP has become, is the party of money and privilege, precisely a 180 degree turn from the past. During the Eisenhower years, Nixon went out of his way to say his wife wore a "Republican cloth coat" to show he was "one of the people." The New Dealers were considered the elitists of their day, FDR, a wealthy NY'er, was seen as the head of a party that was bent on making money from the govt. Eisenhower was the last "real" Republican president we've had, since the advent of Nixon, things have changed dramatically for the GOP. Reagan, who spent his entire adult life in a fantasy world, embraced whole-heartedly the notion that there were some "born" to lead others. This has become the unheard mantra of the GOP since then. Responsibility of the office has been denigrated to the point where it appears to be just a cursory note that one should be responsible for their actions. Responsibility is for "others"...those that born w/o the "guidence of Providence".

History will show what we already know, the entrapments of power and authority are easily misused whenever an individual can attain them, and that person is nefarious in character. Rarely have there been leaders that were willing to give up such power and prestige, and the wealthiest elements of the GOP will never relent to call of the "people", to them, we are no more than peons, fiefs, workers placed here for their convenience and enrichmnet...precisely what the Royalists believe.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:15 PM
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3. That's it exactly
All one has to do is look at the budgets of the last 6 years to know they don't care about how much money they throw around.

The only reason they refuse to use some of it for the public good is because they would lose the power they get being able to control the money.

If you want to be in with them, you have to be loyal to that belief which includes the quaint notion that you deserve it because you're doing God's Will. God wouldn't bless you if you weren't, right?



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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:17 PM
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4. "values and beliefs" are stupid worthless delusions.
If everybody started thinking, and striving to KNOW instead of believing bullshit, every last Repuglican would be exposed, tried, sentenced and hanged for treason.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:23 PM
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6. "Mein Kampf" spells them out pretty well.
But, it pretty well matches your list.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:15 PM
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13. i'd say their view is, "other than that jewish thing, hitler was a great guy"
and perhaps stalingrad could have gone a bit better.

seriously, there's very little philosophically different.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:23 PM
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7. they believe in automatic entitlement
for the wealthy and privileged. Being wealthy and privileged is its own justification.

There is no such thing as unjustly gained wealth.

People with wealth are better than people who are without wealth - inherently better, to the point where some justify it as genetically determined
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:28 PM
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8. Right Wingers don't really have any "values"
What they do have is:

- Greed
- Bigotry
- Hypocrisy
- Fascism
- Death
- Destruction
- Violence
- Torture
- Rudeness
- Arrogance
- Hatred

I don't really call them values, but those things, among others, tend to define the GOP for me.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:32 PM
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9. The big three
Greed - the willingness to brutally exploit anyone or anything to enrich themselves

Power - the desire to make and apply rules, legitimate or not, to everyone but themselves and punish to the greatest extent they can dream up anyone not of their ideology who breaks those "rules"

Hypocrisy - the ability to say one thing and do another with no apparent cognitive dissonance and deny that there is any gap between their words and actions

There are others, of course, but these are the cornerstones of all rightist ideologies.
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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:33 PM
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10. Absolutism
Everything is black or white in their world -- there is no gray, no room for discussion, no ability to develop critical thinking skills.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:49 PM
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11. Steal land and money. Lie. Torture. Win the game. nt
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:17 PM
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14. "win the game" -- i think that's the key
it's all ok as long as you win.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:46 PM
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15. Greed is a biggie: they will kill for money (or let others die from withholding it) n/t
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