Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Vets in Arizona State Veterans Home A patient's colostomy bag not emptied

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread		 This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:06 PM
Original message
Vets in Arizona State Veterans Home A patient's colostomy bag not emptied
No Joke was left in soiled bedclothes

A Arizona State Veterans Home, which cares for the state's oldest veterans, was fined $10,000 after state investigators found cases of "Substantial" patient neglect, according to documents obtained Friday by The Arizona Republic.


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0324veterans0324.html

One more part of article. A patient was dragging herself down the hallway in a urine-soaked nightgown because no one would answer her call button.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
1. If I found a loved one in such a position, I would force feed the bag to the doctor on duty
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. That's why I could not post more thinking about if it was my mother
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
16. they should be monitored and paid well. You get what you pay for.
also, they shouldn't be for profit. ever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Should force feed it to the board members who cut corners and keep the funding low to keep their own
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 07:38 PM by w4rma
profits high. I doubt any doctor really wants to work in a place like this, but every hospital and home is being run on the slimest budget possible, these days.

That doctor that you would attack, is usually only the poor shmuck who gets stuck with being the public face for those scumbags who hide behind him in the shadows.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Them too, but a doctor took an oath, and he has a fiduciary obligation to patients
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Again. If they don't hire enough doctors then no single doctor can do the job properly.
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 08:30 PM by w4rma
It is impossible.

The problem is that the board members are sucking as much money out of the situation that they can and refusing to fund enough nurses and doctors with what they want to be their own profits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Doctors don't provide the direct, day-to-day patient care. Congress provides the $$$.
Go to the source of the problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. A doctor has a medical responsibility to patients. Not a fiduciary one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Your Right most of the Time the Doctor is not there
But no one can tell me he or she didn't know how bad this place was
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I didn't say that the doctor wasn't there. I'm saying that there aren't enough doctors
and there aren't enough nurses hired to be available to be there when they are needed because of board members cutting corners.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Agree with that but let face it they have to know
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
2.  Jesus , don't they have a staff
Or is the staff just a collection of inhuman freaks . Imagine this happening in a regular hospital , it would make the evening news proto .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
4. Good grief.
:cry: :grr: :puke: How people can do this shit to other human beings, much less those who have risked their lives in service to our country, is beyond me. How much do you wanna bet that those most guilty of neglect were the ones who crowed "support our troops!" the loudest? :grr: Disgusting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:20 PM
Response to Original message
12. Kicking this
But it's not news to me. I took an elderly vet neighbor back in the early '90's to the vet hospital in Ann Arbor. The stench was horrible. The building was in deplorable condition. I had old men hanging onto my shirt, begging for help. They were dirty and hungry. The nurses were detached. No one would listen to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 09:38 AM
Response to Original message
14. UpDate there is 14 Families Now demanding this home be closed
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
15. This does not surprise me at all
I knew someone who was in the VA who had a feeding tube. The "food" caused diarrhea so they didn't feed him so they wouldn't have to clean the mess

His roommate had trouble swallowing and choked to death on his meds
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 06:48 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC