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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:25 PM
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Of Worthy Note: America is still spending $12 Billion/Month in Iraq...
Hmmmm. I think $12 billion/month to SPEND in America would be worth while....

Like, for roads, schools, the States, Solar Panels, Solar hot water heaters, Americans in dire need....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:27 PM
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1. i amazed that this money is never questioned or subject to discussion
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rossl Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:29 PM
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2. Did you see Barney Frank?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3xnF0qhp5c

From David Swanson ( http://www.davidswanson.org/?q=node/1623 ):

After a right-winger proposed more tax cuts to "stimulate" the economy and denounced any spending programs as not being "stimulus," Frank pointed out that the largest spending program we've seen is the war on Iraq. Host George Stephanopoulos clearly felt the force of some galactic wind about to suck him into a different dimension in which the two conversations are permitted to overlap. He jumped in and said "That is a whole 'nother show." But Frank faced the taboo head-on, saying:

"No it isn’t. That's the problem. The problem is that we look at spending and say oh don't spend on highways, don't spend on healthcare, but let's build cold war weapons to defeat the Soviet Union when we don't need them, let's have hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars going to the military without a check. Unless everything is on the table then you're going to have a disproportionate hit in some places."

Late last year, Frank proposed cutting the military by 25 percent. When I spoke with his chief of staff, he told me that he thought 10 percent could come from ending the occupation of Iraq. So, Frank is apparently thinking of the military and war budgets as a whole and proposing to cut a quarter, with 15 percent coming out of the standard military budget. "If we are going to get the deficit under control without slashing every domestic program, this is a necessity," Frank said. Now, I'll be the first to point out that 25 percent is grotesquely insufficient, and that there is a perverse sort of unstated public apology here, in that Frank led the charge to throw $700 billion at Wall Street tycoons and has sat by as trillions more has flown out that golden door without any pretense of oversight. But when someone in power gets something right, our focus should be on moving it forward, not analyzing the purity of heart of a politician.

While it is shocking for anyone on television to admit that the military costs money, the public knows it. And when the public sees the military budget in detail, we scream "Slash it!" In a March 2005 report called "The Federal Budget: the Public's Priorities," the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) told people the basic distribution of funds in the federal budget and asked how they would rearrange the funding if they could. Americans from across the political spectrum, on average, said they would cut the military budget by 31 percent. That's more than double Frank's 15 percent. Congressman Dennis Kucinich has in the past proposed a 15 percent cut and been denounced as a radical. Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey has long proposed a shift of resources away from the military but has never named a specific number at all.

We the people are, as usual, out ahead of our leaders. Sixty-five percent of Americans, when they saw how much money the military had, told PIPA they favored taking at least some of it away. Majorities favored reducing spending on the capacity for conducting large-scale nuclear and conventional wars. And second highest on the list of cuts after the "defense" budget was the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:49 PM
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8. yeah. (I agree) but "someone's" husband makes 16 millions...
in pure profits from military contracts...

and they've got a BIG mansion too...

that "someone" is a Dem and is (supposed to be) "working" for us.

who's gonna make the "change" there?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:29 PM
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3. Billion? Wow. Link? And we know money is being spent in lots of
places we never got to vote on. x(
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:36 PM
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7. Not the OP's link, but here is a link that I find pretty good.....
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:50 PM
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9. Thanks for the help..
I thought the $12 billion/month for Iraq was common knowledge....

When does the emergency Iraq war funding end?... and I wonder how our Democratic Majority Congress and President will allocate fund????
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:55 PM
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10. I believe that your $12 Billion/month is right on as I recall hearing... Your Welcome by the way.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:59 PM
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11. Sometimes I just get tired of hunting down links....
I know that I AM being a REAL BAD DU POSTER for not providing a link - just tired tonight...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:29 PM
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4. and still BORROWING 2 billion A DAY just to cover interest payments
on debt we've already accumulated.
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dustbunnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:34 PM
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5. Check this - it gives the amount in tax dollars thrown away every second in Iraq by State
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 10:37 PM by dustbunnie
Then take a look at the trade off numbers for alternate spending.

It's enough to :puke:

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Edited: I tried it for New York State. Total of $58.9 billion in tax dollars for war in Iraq to date would have provided 10,854,125 People with Health Care for One Year
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Royal Sloan 09 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 10:36 PM
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6. Yeah, it's a shame, eom
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:07 PM
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12. is there some reason Iraq can't hire mecenaries to replace ...
is there some reason Iraq can't hire mecenaries to replace
US ground combat troops?





.........................

US . Out of Iraq . NOW
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