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Spacemom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:49 PM
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Gee, way to fight for the middle class
When are they going to grow a spine? What did they compromise on for the stimulus? The piddly tax break the working poor were supposed to get.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/11/stimulus.plan/index.html

Tax breaks for workers that had been set at $1,000 per family or $500 per individual would be scaled back to $800 per family and $400 per individual.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:50 PM
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1. The reduction helped to get the school building and state money back in the plan.
The bill looks better than what the Senate passed.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:52 PM
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2. Well, if it was for the schools...
Still, I don't see anything the rich and famous are giving up.

I could be wrong...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:53 PM
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4. There's nothing in there for them
Not a thing. They'll give up their tax cuts when health care is introduced. Remember?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:23 AM
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27. Sorry, but schools and the states got screwed too
16 and 35 billion dropped respectively.

Oh well, I guess the schools will just have to continue with failing substandard buildings for awhile longer.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:53 PM
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3. Krugman said these were stupid tax cuts
to start with.

Some people just want to bitch, no matter what.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:54 PM
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5. I'm more interested in the rates of taxation of the rich being brought back up
to the rate they were BEFORE Reagan.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:55 PM
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7. Not going to happen
there is no support for that. The rates might go back to a top of 39% though, as it was under Clinton.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:28 PM
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14. Then we need to start building support - that's how we got Obama elected nt
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:06 PM
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22. Hell, take 'em to where they were before Kennedy.
http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 08:56 PM
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26. Great info! Thanks! nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:55 PM
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6. If they were serious they'd cut payroll taxes on your first $15K wages/salary. nt
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:55 PM
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8. and the 15,000
housing tax was dialed back to 7,500 ? and don't forget 30 of Merrill's top guys got 20 Million dollars in bonuses. 30 guys took out Six Hundred Million Dollars. This whole situation is so out of control no wonder most people are so angry they can't see straight!!!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 03:58 PM
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9. You had to pay $ 15000 in taxes to benefit this. It is a good thing it was dialed down.
to give more money for states and schools. No problem with that.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:21 PM
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13. I'm sure everyone here with half a brain got it
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 04:22 PM by 4 t 4
sorry you give du such little credit you felt you had to set the record straight Thanks
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:09 PM
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23. There's nothing wrong with a little clarification.
Don't take it personally.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:00 PM
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10. Better create jobs than give 100 more dollars to families.
We need these jobs now. I hope that they restored the money that was taken out of the bill for states and schools.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:31 PM
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16. Riiiight. Gotcha. People too old and too disabled to work... go fuck yourselves, right?
Thank you for considering us.

:grr:
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:43 PM
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19. More jobs will help everyone (including the old and disabled).
And by a lot more than $100.

Quit being so short sighted.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:18 PM
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:03 PM
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11. I don't want a tax cut...
I just want job creation and a better infrastructure. I'd rather struggling families get more of a stimulus check. I don't want one. I wonder if we have that option, because I'd rather have anything I'd get put back into the pot.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:12 PM
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12. I am with you.
We need JOBS, JOBS, and MORE JOBS! Our infrastructure is in need of major repairs, and there are so many people without work it needs to be the top priority. I could always use some extra money, but I don't want it at the expense of creating jobs for those who really need it. I can get by, others can't!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:29 PM
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15. Way to have concern for the poor folk.... us invisibles.
Do we ever show up on your radar screen?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:31 PM
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17. It's nothing but chump change! $20 bucks is like what, $5 in todays money!
Edited on Wed Feb-11-09 04:33 PM by earth mom
I have been LIVID about this bullshit for the past few weeks and can't believe people around here are saying how great the stimulus package is!

The stimulus package is NOTHING more than the padding of the pockets of big business with OUR money! :grr:

I can NOT believe people aren't out in the streets protesting the bastards in Washington DC!!!

Because they are screwing ALL of us. Big Time.

Some "hope and change" they got there. NOT!
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Belial Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:36 PM
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18. All I can say is.. I voted everyone one who was in.. out...
everyone was so dead set on one part or the other keeping control.. we left the biggest problems in DC
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:55 PM
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20. so WHO is getting
all these 'tax cuts'????
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 05:20 PM
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25. I believe it is in the AMT fix...
That should have been retro indexed for inflation...
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:56 PM
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21. Well, my $400.00 dollars will go in the chain leading back to the
fine folks at whatever oil company provides my local company with heating oil. If I get it in time, maybe I could fill the tank for next year's first delivery.

Sorry but I'm not going out and "buying" anything with it. I need to be warm, not entertained.

Any thoughts I may have had about being able to accomplish something of real substance were an illusion.

Petty of me? I don't know. All I can say is that my husband and I worked all our lives to be in a better place for retirement. Now he is gone and I'm hanging on the edge. Both finances and sanity shot to heck along with my job. Than went south.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:01 AM
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28. politics before people
is the corporate merican way doncha know.
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