The mayor of Las Vegas needs to STFU! If he wants more people to come to Vegas...

he should be suggesting casino operators loosen their fucking slots...but he knows damn well THAT is never going to happen ergo STFU Mayor Lost Wages!!

Nothing exciting happening in those backrooms anymore :)

He is one of the characters in the movie Casino.

Absolutely true story.

One of his mob clients paid his fee with a rolls royce.

:thumbsup:

I gotta say I have no context here

So now he wants Obama to apologize :eyes: He should be apologizing to me for the money I dropped last time I was in his twisted little city that sounds right to me yeppers!

lost money gambling, because no one ever knew they could LOSE money.:crazy:

Food Nazi's - check! Punctuation Nazi's - check! And now gambling Nazi's...Wundervolle DU hat die Mutterlast! geschlagen! :silly:

they don't understand that they can lose...yep, I'm a real gambling Nazi.

And in your later posts you deny that you ever gambled, or you never gambled in Las Vegas, or OK I did gamble in Las Vegas but only at the penny slots. I don't really care about your gambling habits, but trying to use your confused sequence of events to smear Goodman/Las Vegas is foolish.

Those damn injuns anyway, and the lottery DAMMIT THE FUCKING LOTTERY TOO!! :rant:

I do play bingo at the bar that's fun but it's for drinks, baking pans wind-chimes and shit...but I can only feel sorry for people that haven't the slightest clue between, bingo, games of chance, gambling and GAM_BEL_LLLIIINNNGGGGG!!!!!! - losing huge-ass-shit-piles of money and destroying their lives, darlin...what are you like 3yrs old? Cause 20 bucks in a penny slot every 6 months ain't gambling, I gamble more than that walking across the street in traffic at noon, you need to get out more often :eyes:

your attempt to write insult fiction. Just continue to ignore anything I've said and write what those little voices tell you to...

in-sult

–verb (used with object) 1. to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront.
2. to affect as an affront; offend or demean.
3. Archaic. to attack; assault.
–verb (used without object) 4. Archaic. to behave with insolent triumph; exult contemptuously (usually fol. by on, upon, or over).
–noun 5. an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront.
6. something having the effect of an affront: That book is an insult to one's intelligence.
7. Medicine/Medical. a. an injury or trauma.
b. an agent that inflicts this.

8. Archaic. an attack or assault.

Which was your lame attempt here: "but trying to use your confused sequence of events to smear Goodman/Las Vegas"

But then it's all like: smear Goodman (whaaaa, but his name has 'good' right there in it, whaaaa :cry:), at a site, that advocates no-less than from time-to-time the likes of Diane Feinstein, to Krugman, to Pelosi, to Reid, to The Clinton's, to Hugo Chavez, to the prime minister of Canada, to PETA, to UFO's, to occasion that even Obama's opinions on important matters take a back seat to who again, Goodman? The Mayor of Las vegas? That they should all, cept Goodman, then take a flying leap off the long end of a short pier!? To spare the reputation of...Las Vegas, cause Goodman says so? Cause you say so? So...that now you're so offended when your mind's eye sees a penny falling into a slot...that you smear me? Wow! Just wow!

That ain't even fiction that's just plain cute-ass free association; but with my money still floating round Wall Street here & there (what's left of it) it remains a fool that thinks penny slots are gambling.

Don't get out more often after all, I'll settle for you practicing what you preach...

These fluttering rah-rah-rah sis-boom-bah pom-pomed Las Vegas cheerleaders are a bore but if this is the gist of the Ad campaign for Las Vegas tourism it's a small wonder your Mayor has to rant & rave against The President of The United States in an effort to access some of that sweet-sweet bailout money oh yeah!

Untethered bailout money was treated as just that: untethered. Goodman has no claim to it. Even if setup in advance, it was just flat-out stupid for Wells Fargo to have scheduled such an event in a venue known for glitz and high rolling facades.

But think what you will, this is America

you're pissed because he criticised Obama and because you threw your money away gambling. Nobody holds a gun to your head on the casino floor - and it isn't called gambling for nothing.

Before you toss any more nasty labels and aspersions around, come back to Las Vegas and get off the 2.5 mile long Strip. Talk to some of the almost 2 million people who live here. You'll find a city that looks just like every other city in the US, filled with people trying to survive - just like you. They don't live in hotels, they don't eat out every night, and most of them don't gamble very much, if at all.

It's not anywhere near as easy as you would like it to be. Yes, gaming and tourism bring in revenue, but we have a HUGE convention presence here that has little to do with tourists coming in with their cash burning a hole in their pocket. Do some of those visitors gamble? Undoubtedly. But not all of them. It's not ALL about the gaming.

Obama singled out Las Vegas because of the casinos; he apparently didn't stop to consider that other cities also host conventions. Why is it acceptable for one of the bail-out banks to host a convention in San Francisco or New York but not Las Vegas? Obama tied morality to business. Las Vegas is just a 'twisted little city', right? It's obviously full of corruption and vice and call girls and strippers and booze and drugs . . . WAIT.

That could be San Francisco. Or New York. Or just about any other major city in the US.

But because Las Vegas also serves as a center of tourism and gaming, that makes it wrong.

Do I think that the bail-out banks should be hosting giant meetings with tax-payer funds? No. But by focusing on individual cities and venues, Obama didn't stop the meetings - he just forced the banks to go to places that don't give the appearance of excess. The money is still being spent; it's just going to get spent in another city.

Oscar Goodman is a pain in the arse and spends more time with his foot in his mouth than any mayor I've ever seen - but he was right this time.

You have ZEE-row sense of humor, ya'poor dear. Firstly, I don't gamble - and if on the odd I do; sociably with friends or clients; I play penny slots but secondly...I wouldn't gamble in Vegas if you laid the money out. And yeah, everybody just laughs & laughs with me at a penny slot and do you know why? Come on...well, it's cause for some people you ain't squat unless & until you're throwing down big money EITHER on the gaming floor, up in the high roller rooms...or in the convention halls & seminars available complete with glossy DVD's what a duuph!

Either way I do not need your copy/paste from the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce & Gaming Commission to know anymore than I need to know about Las Vegas; what a ridiculous proposition! You're simply laughable! I've worked in Las Vegas and no - not in ways I am sure you are now desirous to tag me with, but with the music industry as I negotiated your vaunted convention & venue landscape so please...don't get a grip, don't get a clue, my god get with the program.

Your mayor was practically spitting on himself with phony-ass outrage...why don't you start right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and bush concentrated on casinos after Katrina...and this is what passes for 'enlightenment' enlightenment :eyes:

seeing their own reflection.

I have no sense of humor.

Translation: You can't support your whine, so now you claim it was supposed to be funny because it was a lie - because you don't gamble - or if you do, you would never do it in Las Vegas - and WHEN you do, it's only penny slots. Make up your mind, bridgit. You certainly seem to know a lot about gambling in the town you despise so much that you would never drop a dime here . . . oh, right! You used to work here, which brings us to the second part of the standard response.

I would automatically assume you're a prostitute or stripper or show-girl? Apparently that would be a horrible condemnation in your book. Not so much in mine - everyone needs to make a living and it didn't even occur to me to consider the possibility until I read your 'not in ways I am sure you are now desirous . . .' remark. You created the scary bugbear, not me. Silly, but adding that comment into your diatribe does help you pull a false mantle of propriety around your shoulders. Poor little thing. The bad person thinks bridgit is . . . what? Something awful, apparently.

I don't need to 'get a clue', bridgit, but you certainly do. Your own 'phony-ass outrage' is what's laughable. You don't have a rational argument, so you revert to making it up as you go along. Show me something in any comment you have made - from your OP on - that amounts to a substantive discussion of the issue; something that indicates you have any idea why Oscar Goodman attacked Obama. You can't. All you've written is insults and outrage. Now, you may think you're so damned brilliant that you're commentary is unassailable, but there's nothing clever or brilliant in what you've said in this thread so far.

I suggested to you that you learn a bit about the city and the people who live here before you spout off. You have said nothing to convince me that you know anything about the city beyond the Strip, the tourist industry (which includes your 'music industry') and the convention industry. So I repeat - you don't know jack about it.

But you do have your faux outrage down pat. Congrats on that.

You...don't...know...jack about me.

My GodFather was a brilliant top gun flight instructor. He lived hard, he worked hard, he flew hard, and he played even harder. When young, he would have me accompany him along; and by the by...Vegas is not the only place in which to gamble, people in Vegas only think that it is; but there I was, just old enough to get onto the gaming floor watching him at the tables sometimes win little mountains of money...sometimes winning straight-up mountains of it, and sometimes losing it all. I've seen the look in people's eyes. I've seen the effects of gambling. Working my way through college, 1 of 3 chosen out of some couple hundred that applied; I dealt blackjack at CalNeva. Sweetheart...the house always wins. And I've seen what it does to people ergo the penny slots *again* if on the odd. But some maintain rather specific relationships to what is odd, yes? Aren't those the reasons they key it up and wrap *it* round others they do not know so effortlessly? To win their petty little wars? In fact don't answer that question to me, you know the answer already...

My sense is that you're the one whose mind needs to get all the way around it. Especially if you think that Las Vegas was predicated upon 'the convention business'. That component, as *both* you & I so blithely refer to it, is a relatively fresh development. Having been initiated in considerable measure in that Las Vegas sought to re-invent itself into the model over which you fawn today, and I say that's fine it's peachy keen in fact Madonna is now a Kabbalist by way of such reinvention but neither did she start out a mystic, nevertheless...

Here is the "now standard DU response" that you have brought to this table, the one you are so vastly more comfortable with. And it goes like this: drag whatever the hell the issue was so far afield of any rational thought but for personal attacks & condescension, pretense to humor or levity, comradery or corp de esprit and hang that onto your_very_own, prickly, ill-advised canard as to rend the entire event sequence meaningless...good job :thumbsup:

I see allot of that at DU,

"you're pissed because he criticized Obama and because you threw your money away gambling" and the monotheistic diatribe that follows is the very essence of; and forget about Las Vegas for a moment if you are able; but not knowing jack about any shit whatsoever.

Obama was talking about bailout money sashaying off to Vegas (that's not strip-money, that's not Henderson or surroundings areas certainly not just, that's not Blue Man Group's money that's American tax payer money from out here in the rest of the country you do understand that don't you?) to be poured into the pockets of luxury addled banking CEO's and personnel. And there is no way in hell you're able to certify that some of it would not have ended up on the gaming floor that's just ethereal to even think so,

Though if you don't understand the problem then you don't understand the problem but that IS NOT BY DEFINITION fine or peachy keen. Obama has been tagging corporate America for laying people off as well. Obama may not be your president for that matter whom is able to say for sure certainly not me you know what maybe is just funny after all...

How it never really matters now does it, unless & until those tags fall down and all around *your* shoulders.

There's a scene from a Dustin Hoffman movie: Straight Time, after he gets out of prison he sets about to take down an illegal card game with lots of money on the table. He hooks back up with the Gary Busey character who's trying to play by the rules after having had his run-in with the law. The Hoffman dude wants him to pull a scattergun going in, shake them all up; after which the take goes down. Busey decides what he thought was for his better, long term interest and doesn't show. The Hoffman dude is strung out, and the take does not go down. He then confronts to very ill & violent ends the Busey character but in the event sequence accuses Busey of fucking him out of his money, allot of money 10's of thousands...*his* money, to the Hoffman dude it was his money,

The money Obama was referring to was not Las Vegas' money to begin with, it was not the Mayor of Las Vegas' money, it wasn't even the banking dudes money to squander. It was bailout money supposed to be applied elsewhere so alleviate other sufferings somewhere else. And, again as I say, if you don't get it then you just don't get it,

At the end of the piece it is understood. Some people have institutional ways in which they form their thought patterns. When out amongst 'the straight people', they are doing Straight Time. Such people are able to think differently...about the fruits of other people's labors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7RFqqIgSIU

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rich life - so full of opportunities that you simply can't recall from one post to the next what, exactly, you have accomplished. It certainly keeps changing each time you respond.

Unfortunately, your ability to make sense hasn't improved - despite your ever-expanding CV.

If at some point you wish to discuss the issues, rather than flinging straw-man arguments, allusions to Hollywood films, and links to YouTube videos as an alternative to critical thinking and logical debate (is that link supposed to provide some sort of proof for whatever point you're attempting to make?), I'm happy to engage in a sensible dialogue.

My double majored degree is from UCLA...LA, you know, Hollywood. I nevertheless use it in my present capacity while supplying, for relatively handsome compensation, narrative to corporate entities meant to enhance the positions of their various products and our client base is I humbly submit: prestigious and hard-fought, in spite of your opinions of me here but still & regardless i.e. whether things being said & actions taken contribute to the long term betterment of market share, systemic-operational overviews of in-house corporate customer/employee relations, etc; which I continue to recognize that Goodman has not succeeded in accomplishing to any creative ends by framing the entire contraction of the U.S. economy up to the edges of the convention trade in Las Vegas; as being Obama's fault for having said what he said.

The arguments that followed, such as yours which are centered upon what is prickly & personal, are still a given nonetheless; that the convention trades in Las Vegas are employing many good people, while offering viable services to incorporated or otherwise coalesced entities & interests, the surrounding areas being filled & brimming with wonderful people paying mortgages, young happy lovers playing footsie stealing kisses at soda fountains as smiling soda jerks look on, happy children running with balloons & kites filled with air, and all going about their daily affairs with little or no relationship to 'the strip' whatsoever, etc, etc, etc, oh, and cattle ranchers too, however...

The following component of those arguments, which is actually predicated not upon "critical thinking and logical debate" runs counter to any of these bailout monies ever filtering out into the surrounding areas unless; and here's that turn of phrase once again: "if on the odd" someone in that group of CEO's, etc, happens to know someone that operates a cafe, or boutique or other concern out *in* the surrounding areas, etc, and that, presumably by extension, these CEO's along with their handpicked personnel and a donut dolly or two would otherwise be motoring the dusty streets of what used to be the wild west in stretch limos sooner pumping the hands of the innocent, ordering their chili cheese fries awhile tossing $1,000 bills out the sun roof remains laughable.

Sure, somebody will be dumping the cigar ash from their trays but a considered amount of those bailout monies would remain on the strip if not inside the venue itself certainly if the forms of rentals & leasing fees and it's just ridiculous to think otherwise either way...

In the end as in the beginning this is not about me, as you and some others refuse to understand. This is about the contracting of the U.S. economy up against sectors that thought they'd seldom of ever be made to suffer such slights. And some of those sectors have mayors named Goodman,

To discount the import of contemporaneous media, symbol & culture is to suggest that none of that matters. Of course it matters, America is a consumer driven economy flooded with symbols & images and all vying for position. Though even if that were the case; that symbols and American culture really don't matter...then why did your major become so agitated over the symbols that Obama drew all around the bailout money being traipsed off into locales *such as* Las Vegas. Obama also pooh-poohed the specious purchase of corporate jets with bailout monies which has as well been a headline in the news within current events. No, you can't have it both ways, you can't always pick & choose symbols like in the produce dept at the Piggly Wiggly, while playing mirror mirror on the wall. There's a disconnect there and it's useful to understand it imo

The link was evidence that the film exists, and the motif along with it. The motif is that some folks view the fruits of other people's labor as their own before the fact. Mayor Goodman is imo such a person. Yes, lots of work went into erecting Las Vegas. My husband working as a journeyman plumber worked projects for Del Web. But after all the work and employee drug tests & background checks, the mechanical plant engineers, security, house keeping, croupier, coolers, chefs, and the folks that pull the pennies from fountains and everyone else all hustling & bustling about; the Las Vegas that Obama was referring to, the Las Vegas that Mayor Goodman was referring to, the Las Vegas that many, many, many-many people see in their mind's eye when they think of Las Vegas runs = money flowing into it to a staggering degree, by simply keeping the doors open but isn't that just the problem in an economy in a state of contraction such as ours *ours* and not just Las Vegas' cept not just keeping the doors open but positioning, in this case: your product in such a way as to maintain it's appeal...

I myself would not have counseled Goodman in his displayed umbrage with a president of the U.S., it is imo Goodman has done more damage to Las Vegas than you will ever think I ever could. Goodman should instead be thanking Obama, for separating the wheat from the husk in the form of delineating earned money from ill gotten gains. And if it is to be the case as it appears...that Goodman is unable, or perhaps refusing to acknowledge the difference between earned money and ill gotten gains then that onus is on Goodman and perhaps even you for defending his ways & means ~

I live in a town that has outlying areas too, most of the rest of the country does. I know some DUer's from Massachusetts that live in them. They refer to my sleepy little delta town as: Suck-a-tomato, Sack-ah-taters, Suck-a-toe-jam whatever...no one sees me getting upset about it, to a considerable extent people have a right to their thoughts. What do I care what a couple-three goof balls say about my "twisted little city" but not you...

You're here and it's time for you to admit it; to make this all personal, to, as I've mention is the true sport of DU: drag it all so fair afield none of it makes any sense any more (or clearly some hope), while projecting every other ill onto everyone else cept for their/your...what was it again? Reflection? Sure, let's keep it right there period

Though as for what is cryptic in this world, do, please: be off with thee onto your run as Lavinia at Ashland. Upon your return we may have even more over which to disagree, here, from my journal:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7079850

Your continued aspersion upon the ways with which I choose to express myself are hereby dismissed out of hand. And until such time as you are willing to recognize that "critical thinking" harbors more that the opportunity to merely be critical, or that what is so-called and light-headedly referred to as "logical debate" has brought nearly the entire world to a state of what is illogical, requiring new thought to perhaps include what has thus far been considered 'logical' itself; then we really do have very little left to say. I've lived in casino employee housing where the plumbing only seemed to work half the time, I've had my thighs and ass pinched, smack't and rubbed by pit bosses; and bashed my tray over the heads of others and had them escorted off the premises for life. There's a whole bunch of this stuff I do not require your input as regards, "logical", "critical", or otherwise. The best may be that we will sooner still just be talking past one another...

And I am not sorry as I do consider that a bore :boring:

Lemme give you a brief summary of some of them:

1.) Several young females talk to several young males (each look to be early twenties) and they each give false names and identities. The guys are obviously trying to hook up with the females, and giving out a bunch of BS info to get them interested. The ladies are doing the same thing.

2.) Two guys are shown talking to various females trying to hook up with them, each time giving out different names and occupations. "Hello, I'm Joseph Williams and I'm a doctor" then "Yeah, I'm David Johnson and we're pilots". Next sequence in the same ad "Yup, being a firefighter is dangerous" to which a woman asks "Wait, I thought you said you were a stockbroker." "Uhh... yeah, that's what I used to do. Now I'm a firefighter."

3.) A husband, on a business convention trip to Las Vegas, calls his wife at home, who is folding laundry.

"Hi honey, well the convention is over and I decided to do a little gambling playing Blackjack."

"I hope you didn't lose a lot of money, Stan."

"I didn't. Just 10 blue chips."

"You lost 10 thousand dollars?!?!?"

"No. Not 10 thousand, 10 chips."

"Ummm. What's written on those little blue chips, Stan?"

"Umm... lemme see... $1000."

"Uh huh..."



Evidently those TV ads infer that one can come to Vegas and live out a fantasy life, lying, cheating, and gambling away more than you can afford.

:wow: :spray: Sucker! :rofl:

Mayor endorses gin to fourth graders

School officials say Goodman's remarks were inappropriate


Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman told a group of fourth graders on Monday that if he was marooned on a desert island the one thing he would want to have with him is a bottle of gin.

And when a student quizzed Goodman about his hobbies he replied that "drinking" was one of them, said Mackey Elementary School Principal Kamala Washington, who was present for the mayor's visit.

Goodman was unapologetic for his comments that came during his visit to the elementary school in North Las Vegas.

"I'm the George Washington of mayors. I can't tell a lie. If they didn't want the answer the kid shouldn't have asked the question," Goodman said. "It's me, what can I do?"


Yes that still makes me laugh.

A lot more....

What is the deal?

It's no secret to investors that casino business is dying. We've bailed out of MGM and Wynn.

People in LA have been begging for a bullet train to Vegas.

industry shouldn't be going to places like Vegas on the taxpayers' money, Mayor Goodman has been on his high horse. The local news on every station has run with it. Goodman said Obama could of mentioned other cities, instead of targeting Vegas. But Vegas was targeted because of Wells Fargo Bank. Well, I listened to "The Rant" on the local FOX network and you should of heard some of the people from Vegas upset about what Obama said. I see nothing wrong with what O said--the taxpayers in the US should not have to front a junket to Vegas by corporate greedheads. I believe there was another corporation coming to Vegas for a convention also, who received bailout.

People, also need to remember, that Las Vegas is a major convention town and that one of the largest retailers' conventions is held here twice a year. However, I think Goodman has taken O's words too far. Of course, the local media is spinning it over and over again. If the stimulus package helps Mayor Goodman and Vegas, I relish seeing him eat his words.

You know, come to think of it-those Vegas ads may have been good for Vegas at the time--but the ads give an impression that Vegas is not the place for serious business talk, but carousing and having fun-24 hours a day. So, I don't know, in this economy, which did more harm of perception, the Vegas ads or O's statement? :shrug: