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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:39 PM
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CNBC's Jim Cramer just slashed a machete through the cup of a bra, on national television.
Is that guy playing with a full deck?

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:41 PM
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1. I have this vision...
Of loud snorting and sniffing noises coming through the door of his dressing room, pre-show.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:42 PM
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2. What the hell is he trying to prove?
Seems very misogynistic to me.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:47 PM
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8. It's his idea of a "cute" visual to accompany the information that VF Corp. is ditching its...
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 05:48 PM by Fridays Child
...bra business because it's low margin. When he slashed the bra, he said, "Now, that's what I'm talkin about!"
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:55 PM
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19. VF Bras Are Crap
Maybe if they made a good product they wouldn't have this problem.

How many women need a purple bra?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:58 PM
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22. I don't know anything about that but the visual was disturbing.
:scared:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:42 PM
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3. Hey it's his bra--- if he wants to machete it, have at it...mho
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:43 PM
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4. There's a reason I don't watch tv....
Damn, this person should be locked up.

I don't even know the context of this "story", but I know misogyny and violence when I see it.

What an asshole.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:52 PM
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15. misogyny and violence???
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
all i can say is...wow.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:07 PM
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30. I've spent 48 years standing up . . .
. . . for women, whenever I've had the chance.

That image makes me sick.

If it doesn't bother you, that's your business.
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:09 PM
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35. as freud would say
sometimes a bra is just a bra
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. Ha!
:D

Did he weigh in on machetes, too?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:11 PM
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37. that attitude is what makes me sick...
sound the alarm!!! misogyny and violence!!! a financial commentatator is making a stupid point!!! misogyny and violence, i say!!!!

i feel sorry for people who just work so hard at making everything about...misogyny and violence? for 48 years? you have my sympathies...we only get one shot at life, and some people just can't even try to enjoy it.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:17 PM
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44. Enjoy it?
Enjoy what? Slicing up bras on your TV and calling it news?

I don't work at all making "everything about misogyny and violence".

If you think it's funny, I don't get it. Stupid? Yes.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:18 PM
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45. Oh, I've had plenty of fun.
In some rougher bars than I probably should've been in.

And I've stood up for the ladies a few times.

So I can do two things at once . . . why are you screaming?

;)

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:01 PM
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25. You. Have. To. Be. Kidding.
You dont even care about the context??? WOW!!!!
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:08 PM
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33. Wouldn't want my niece to see that image, would you?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:13 PM
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40. well- she's very lucky that she's your niece...
and NOT your daughter.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:20 PM
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50. Thanks for weighing in on that.
:)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:18 PM
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46. why not? unless you are told its a bra, you dont even know for sure what it is
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 06:18 PM by LSK
It could be a sock, scarf, rag, who knows.

My whole point is you should NEVER kneejerk and instead wait for the facts and in this case the CONTEXT.

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #46
58. I have an intense dislike . . .
. . . for thugs. This image triggered that response.

You're right about kneejerk reactions and context.

And I assure you, I will not kick his ass . . . until I've heard his side of the story.

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glaeken777 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:18 PM
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48. lighten up, francis
My mother basically did the same thing to her *own* bras in the 1960s, along with millions of other liberated American women. Only difference was, she didn't use a machete. So tell me... was my mother a misogynist for slicing up a bra?
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. Your mother was very cool.
I find the machete thing pretty disturbing.
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glaeken777 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:29 PM
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56. thanks...
Cramer is a nut and a clown; it's part of his larger-than-life schtick. If fruits were down, he probably would have Gallaghered them with a huge mallet and covered the cameramen in pulp.

My mom is probably glad she got rid of the bra anyway; in the 1950s she broke a classmate's nose after he snapped hers in the hallway. The principal, a male, chose to congratulate her rather than suspend her.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. Cool story.
And thanks for the info on the Cramer nut.

Maybe I'll start watching tv again.

Naaaaaahhh!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:28 PM
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55. uh ...what????????
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
68. And exactly how do you interact with the real world when you live under a rock ? -nt
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:37 PM
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72. Got tired of TV, one night.
Pulled an Elvis and shot the damned thing. I don't recommend it.

But, the internet has more channels anyway.

I live for autumn . . . I spend a lot of time in the Utah canyonlands, jeeping around.

Hanging out with rocks.

;)
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:44 PM
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5. This numbskull is going to jail
if you haven't watched this self-important coke head chatterbox admit to securities fraud and insure himself a spot in the pokey soon, enjoy. STUNNING admissions of securities manipulation and fraud, openly, and even tells you what stock he did it to (Research in Motion). He thought for some reason that an interview on the internet would not have wide play. Moran.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ugldfTwYugc

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:54 PM
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18. Jeez. Is any agency checking into this?
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:12 PM
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39. I would hope the SEC would, as it is their responsibility, but knowing Bushco
The SEC lawyers are probably threatened like US Atty's if they seek insider trading against prominent Repukes (and Kramer certainly fits that mold, holding the keys to a $450M fund he personally commands).

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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:45 PM
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65. What exactly was the admission of wrong doing ?
All I heard in that segment were generalized statements about how hedge funds managers manipulate the market which is not exactly an admission of his own tactics when he was running his hedge fund.

Specifically, how they "spin" news on a company like RIM to improve their intra-day gains. In other words, how the fund mgrs play the market.


MZr7
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:18 PM
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70. I know it is drenched in lingo, but he ADMITTED to stock manipulation while he held a put position
He says in the video that when managing his fund, he would screw with idiot money in the market by buying a put position (betting a stock would go down) then would say false derogatory things about the company's future so that his put position would make his fund a ton of money. TOTALLY, TOTALLY illegal. Absolute textbook market manipulation and securities fraud.

He also describes a scheme where he mocks the SEC's inability to understand his schemes, in fact calling the SEC stupid, which is typically a suicidal thing to do. (Under Bush, apparently less so)

He also describes another, much more esoteric (to the beginner anyway) scheme to defraud stockholders of RIM(Research in Motion) gains by forcing that stock down with manipulation by creating fake buying pressure with a few million dollars of his own money, THEN would talk the stock down to other big brokers and make the margin.

This shit undermines trust in the market, which causes other stocks to go down, which causes capital flight, which fucks the economy and weakens the ability of legitimate (initial) stocks to raise money for legitimate business endeavors.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:27 PM
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71. And this is why Hedge funds are generally unregulated...
Sorry I don't see anything criminal on Cramer's part. Not enough specifics and certainly not illegal. What I see is a need for more transparency in the how the hedge managers operate. Yes it is market manipulation, but the manner in which this was done is not criminal (at least as the SEC operates today).

BTW... You really don't need to explain "puts" to me... I have many of them :)

MZr7


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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:46 PM
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6. Why?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. Here...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. thanks and to answer your OP,no.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:56 PM
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21. LOL! I thought not!
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:46 PM
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7. Ok...why?
I don't recall anybody claiming bra's were machete proof. I think that was pretty well proven after all of those Friday the 13th movies.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:51 PM
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13. Here...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:48 PM
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9. Hmmm.... Why did he do that? WHY NOT A JOCK STRAP?
Is he mad at the bra company or something? What's his 'issue' with bras?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. because the story was about a company cutting it's bra business...
what would a jockstrap have to do with that?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #10
23. Absolutely nothing, but the OP didn't say what the 'story' was about.
I thought maybe he hated women? I didn't know why the hell he was slashing up a bra.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:04 PM
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27. I corrected that here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=508569&mesg_id=508654

But the bra slashing was disturbing enough--at least, to me--to stand alone.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:05 PM
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29. Thanks. I just had to explain my 'jock strap' remark to Question All.
:) I agree the bra slashing is pretty demented.:scared:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. wouldn't it be more likely that he hated bras?
if he hated women, wouldn't he chop up a woman?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. Well, no. How could he chop up a woman on TEEVEE?
:crazy:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #36
43. and how does destroying a bra translate to hatred of women...?
does that mean that all those women who publicly burned their bras in the 60's/70's were really just self-loathing women-haters?

it's all starting to make more sense now...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #43
52. It's different if a WOMAN wants to burn HER bra. I HATE bras, but I am FEMALE.
I have that right. I'm glad it makes more sense...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #52
73. no, it still makes no sense to say that destroying a bre translates to hatred of women-
that just plain out-and-out STUPID.
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glaeken777 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #43
54. took the words right out my mouth
I could have saved some time typing if I hadn't refreshed too late! :)

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. From the keyboard of another man. I'm so insulted.
:eyes:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #31
49. No.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #31
64. it is a subliminal message, Talaban hatred of demon women the cause of anti war movement
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:50 PM
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11. I'm just glad nobody was WEARING the bra at the time. n/t
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:54 PM
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17. Glad Rudy wasn't wearing it at the time....
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:53 PM
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16. He is a MAJOR
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 06:14 PM by liberalnurse
donor to Democrats. :bounce:

www.newsmeat.com

Jim Cramer , 52 (bio)
business journalist; former hedge fund manager $260,000* Democrat
* includes soft-money donations
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #16
69. Cramer is the best thing going for working class folks trying to build a retirement nest egg...
His whole stick is about taking control of your investment strategy and making some money on your own.

He is certainly doing more to help un-veil how the markets work for the average joe than anyone else on tv for sure.


MZr7

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 05:56 PM
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20. No the guy is a fake. I've seen him spray mists of spit all over his
set. A raving lunatic wannabe. He makes Glenn Beck look good if that helps.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #20
26. Does he drool more than Tweety?
;) I don't know how that could be possible. Tweety needs to wear a BIB he slobbers so much.:puke:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. Hmm...maybe they could have (warning)...
...a drool-off. But I think Tweety would win:

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #32
38. OMG!!! LOOK at that!
:rofl::rofl:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. I actually felt sorry for the guy. First time for everything.
That pic was a def photobucket saver! I'm telling ya though, the other guy could take him!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #42
59. LOL! That picture is the funniest damn thing I've seen in ages! Holy Crap..
his producers really need to talk to him about it. SURELY it's something he can control if he tries.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. From the profile view it looks like a spray bottle.
We should get them together and have a spitfest! See who can pump out the most saliva. :spray:
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #20
66. Fake ? Really. Hummmmm....
ok :eyes:

MZr7
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:01 PM
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24. Cramer Rules!!! - and no, he is playing with a "loaded deck" where he generally wins... -nt
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. He was doing an interview and 'accidentally' said he was a DEMOCRAT.
After he said it he said..."OOPS! The secret's out now!" I didn't see this interview. A friend of mine did though.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #28
47. I've suspected as much after reading his books..but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter
He has provided me with enough information over the years about how to make money, that frankly I could care less about his political affiliation.
When he recommends a big phara, oil, or bio stock, I generally listen to the analysis but don't invest - why? Thats my call not his. I would however, consider him a flake if he only did analysis on stocks we on the left like.

I listen to Cramer for one reason only... to understand how companies are performing. My task it to decide if I care to act on that information.

MZr7

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:23 PM
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53. In developmental psychology, this behavior is called 'rejecting the breast'
He's finally ready to be weaned! (But you may want to watch him for antisocial tendencies.)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #53
63. LOL!
:rofl:
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jeffrey_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:35 PM
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60. I don't trust anyone who profits from the world's biggest pyramid scheme.
it's all shtick anyway.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:36 PM
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62. it is part of their subliminal ..hate women not Dubya or the War campaign..
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 06:36 PM by sam sarrha
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #62
67. Who are "they" ?
I gather you don't actually watch his show and are just posting based on the OP title..

If not, I'm all ears once we reach an understanding of who "they" are ?

MZr7
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:34 PM
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74. That guy is annoying. n/t
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