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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:35 PM
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Our next president
An email from Sojourners (http://www.sojo.net)...

Our next president
We're less than a year away from the first votes being cast in the 2008 presidential primaries, and the campaigns are heating up. As we speak with candidates and campaigns, we become more and more convinced that we have a historic opportunity this election season to put poverty at the top of the national agenda.

You can help do that by coming to Washington, D.C., this June for Sojourners/Call to Renewal's national mobilization, Pentecost 2007: Taking the Vision to the Streets. You'll have a front-row seat at the premier presidential campaign forum on faith, values, and poverty as leading Democratic presidential contenders -- who have indicated a strong interest in this event -- join us for a conversation about the issues that matter most to you.

Click here to learn more and register for Pentecost 2007, June 3-6, in Washington, D.C. -- where we'll take the vision to the streets : http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.P07&item=pentecost07_main

For more than 10 years, during the season of Pentecost, Sojourners/Call to Renewal has been convening and mobilizing church leaders, lay leaders, social service providers, and activists young and old from across the ecumenical spectrum to build a movement to overcome poverty.

Last year, at Pentecost 2006, we launched A Covenant for a New America -- a solutions-based agenda for overcoming poverty that transcends ideology. This year, with more partners than ever before, we'll take the Covenant to a new level, challenging presidential aspirants and other national leaders -- Republicans and Democrats alike -- to put poverty at the top of their agenda.

Click here to register: http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.P07&item=pentecost07_main

Pentecost 2007 will be just the beginning of our activities leading up to the 2008 election. Stay tuned for more information, including a similar forum for Republican presidential contenders later this year.

We're excited for what will be a major event in the presidential campaign season, and we hope you'll join us and be a part of history in the making!

-- Robin, Adam, Yonce, Kevin, Amy, Gini, Michael, Kim, and Bob
The Organizing/Policy Team at Sojourners/Call to Renewal

P.S. For information about sponsoring Pentecost 2007, click here: http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=action.P07&item=pentecost07_sponsors



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:39 PM
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1. Thanks for the link Sapphire k and r
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:39 AM
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9. You're welcome & thank YOU!
:hi: :hug:

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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:51 PM
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2. I wish I shared their optimism!!
When I look around, I see less and less concern about poverty, rather than more.

Edwards is such a shining exception to that... John and Elizabeth are almost like RFK--commitment with a deep compassion.

I"m grateful to the few here on DU who give a damn.

For the rest....it's hard to keep breathing.....

I hope Sojourners is getting strong enough to really move people this year!!



BTW, when I think of Pentecost, I think of the year a friend and I decided to choreograph a dance for church. I got this harebrained idea of taking a Polynesian tradition, and we got a coconut, cut it in half and scraped it out, and filled it with flammable material.

We then choreographed a dance with our "fire pots".

We were a bit bashful about telling the priest our idea, and thought for sure he'd be horrified, but, he just said, "We can judiciously place a few fire extinguishers behind the alter", and let us proceed.

I've had my moments.

:rofl:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 03:05 AM
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7. sadly, most people don't care about poverty as an issue . . .
and those experiencing poverty don't vote . . . sad, but true . . .
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:34 AM
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8. You have just stepped in it; be prepared to have your ass handed to you!
I'll give you a little preview...

Your comment is utter BS. Poor people (when not being disenfranchised & actually having voting machines to vote with) vote in great numbers, standing in line for hours to exercise their right to vote. How many privileged Americans would do that?

"those experiencing poverty don't vote"?!?!?!? Where the hell have you been? In your cushy suburb, looking down your nose at poor people?

God forbid Jim Wallis & Sojourners insist that poverty be at the forefront of the 2008 presidential campaign... why, their efforts might be a success! No longer will the privileged be able to look away & ignore poverty, justifying their indifference w/comments like "the poor don't even vote"! It may not be possible any longer to ignore the needs of 37 million people (roughly 12% of the US population... more than 1 out of 10 people in this country)! No longer will "poverty isn't a winning issue" be an acceptable excuse!

To Jim Wallis & Sojourners I say "BRAVO!!! God bless you all!!!"

To those that would ignore poverty, I offer words from Elie Weisel...
The Perils of Indifference
Elie Wiesel

(excerpt)

In a way, to be indifferent to that suffering is what makes the human being inhuman. Indifference, after all, is more dangerous than anger and hatred. Anger can at times be creative. One writes a great poem, a great symphony, one does something special for the sake of humanity because one is angry at the injustice that one witnesses. But indifference is never creative. Even hatred at times may elicit a response. You fight it. You denounce it. You disarm it. Indifference elicits no response. Indifference is not a response.

Indifference is not a beginning, it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor -- never his victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she feels forgotten. The political prisoner in his cell, the hungry children, the homeless refugees -- not to respond to their plight, not to relieve their solitude by offering them a spark of hope is to exile them from human memory. And in denying their humanity we betray our own.

Indifference, then, is not only a sin, it is a punishment. And this is one of the most important lessons of this outgoing century's wide-ranging experiments in good and evil.

In the place that I come from, society was composed of three simple categories: the killers, the victims, and the bystanders. During the darkest of times, inside the ghettoes and death camps -- and I'm glad that Mrs. Clinton mentioned that we are now commemorating that event, that period, that we are now in the Days of Remembrance -- but then, we felt abandoned, forgotten. All of us did.

And our only miserable consolation was that we believed that Auschwitz and Treblinka were closely guarded secrets; that the leaders of the free world did not know what was going on behind those black gates and barbed wire; that they had no knowledge of the war against the Jews that Hitler's armies and their accomplices waged as part of the war against the Allies.

If they knew, we thought, surely those leaders would have moved heaven and earth to intervene. They would have spoken out with great outrage and conviction. They would have bombed the railways leading to Birkenau, just the railways, just once.

The full speech (text & audio) is available @ http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/wiesel.htm



Today... a different time, a different place.

We know.

In the future, how will we each answer the question, "What did you do for 'The political prisoner in his cell, the hungry children, the homeless refugees', the hungry, the poor, the destitute?"


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 11:26 AM
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14. I think what's even sadder is that poor people are far more likely to be
targeted by devious political activists whose goal seems to be to PREVENT them from voting. They're far more likely to be the people with poorly-served and poorly-equipped voting precincts. Theirs are the polling places far more likely not to have enough voting booths - hence the necessity for them to stand in line for hours. They're the ones far more likely to be given "provisional" ballots that stand a stronger chance of simply being discarded, NOT COUNTED AT ALL (and I don't understand this "provisional" ballot bullshit AT ALL. NO ballot, repeat, NONE in this country should be "provisional" for ANY REASON. "Provisional" MY ASS!). They're also the potential voters who stand more of a chance of getting some smart-ass republi-CON's "hilarious" idea of a voter reminder flyer - that tells them the wrong date for the election. People like these are TARGETED. They win the Most Likely to Be Fucked With award, every election cycle anymore. And, hell, since especially to the GOP, these people don't matter anyway because they're more likely to vote Dem, then, let's just sweep them all up into the DISCARD pile and not even sweat it about 'em. Who needs 'em anyway? Lazy moochers! And they're hogging all MY tax money so I can't buy the new top-of-the-line Mercedes again this year!!! Why don't they just get a job? IGMFU!!! I Got Mine, F-U!!! Fuck this "my brother's keeper" shit! Screw my brother! Let him get his own!

Sigh... that's the mentality governing them, for the most part.

We have a LOT of attitude adjustment work to do. We can afford a LOT less posturing about gay marriage and tinkering with unborn genetics if - HORRORS! - you think your fetus MIGHT be born gay!!! More emphasis ought to be placed on what the Bible REALLY talks about: The Least of Our Brethren.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:10 PM
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16. Thanks so much, calimary, for TRUTH! I get so tired of all the propaganda against us POOR FOLK!
Isn't it interesting that this same isn't said about black folk, or gay folk, etc. Even though they are also targetted with the same voter suppression.

It's easier to target poor folk as being "non-voting" because we don't have VISIBLE ADVOCATES!!

What *IS* true, is that if progressives don't get a clue and start reaching out to poor folk, AND advocating for them, they could very well LOSE their votes, and then the RW will be in power for good.

It is soooo unbelieveable to me how the left depends on us poor folk to carry them through elections, then practically spits on us!!!!

Some day, busters, this is gonna bite you all BIG!!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:51 PM
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15. "sad but true" Maybe TRUE on FAUX SNOOZE, or LIMBAUGH
but in the real world, it's not only FALSE, but an ugly RW talking point.

I get what's true is that YOU don't care.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:09 PM
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3. Kick & Rec n/t
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:39 AM
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10. Thanks, Sydnie!
:hi: :hug:

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hashibabba Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:09 PM
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4. K&R AWESOME! Thanks SB!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:40 AM
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11. Thank you, hashibabba!
:hi: :hug:

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 02:41 AM
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5. Late kick . . .
. . . for some brave people.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:41 AM
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12. Thanks, CrazyOrangeCat!
:hi: :hug: They are some wonderful people!

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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 02:52 AM
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6. These are for you:
:hug::grouphug::hug::grouphug::hug::grouphug:
:grouphug::hug::grouphug::hug::grouphug::hug:
:hug::grouphug::hug::grouphug::hug::grouphug:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 10:44 AM
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13. Nutmegger...
:hi: :hug: :loveya: :hug:




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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:45 PM
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17. K&R
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