Sean Penn to Prop 8 Supporters: You get to sit and reflect on the shame you'll live with

In his acceptance speech for Milk. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

(Paraphrasing!)

Edit: Here is the acceptance speech: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x275145

inaugural type cheer:)

Good for him.

"Commie Homo lovers" :evilgrin: (which I assume was a virtual bitchslap to the Phelps idiots apparently protesting outside)

If you got a strong stomach, go read the incoherent spew on the "picket schedule" page on Phelps' website.

Apparently Cain & Abel are responsible for the Oscars? :crazy:

http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html

also in reference to the year Brokeback Mountain
did not get it's much deserved Best Picture award...
from what was touted as a homophobic Oscar board.

Not sure of the truth of it, just what I heard at the time.

cheering so loud I woke up my husband....

it's awesome! Sean Penn: great passionate person, great passionate actor. :woohoo:

Will be judged as shameful by their grandchildren.

just as many who opposed the Civil Rights movement in the 60s were later shamed by that opposition.

they'll be like the folk that were against interracial marriage - yes INDEED

Which side of history do they want to be a part of? The side that will eventually win? Or the side that will be remembered as the bigots? Makes them all kinds of scrambly.

saying one is for civil unions is like telling gay folk they can get on the bus as long as they sit in the back :thumbsdown:

...we were cheering in front of the tv. Did he say something about protesters at the Awards? My gawd--did those prop 8 people go to the AAwards to protest the Milk nominations? What reason would they have to protest...protest what...exactly?

:(

That sideshow seems to protest EVERYTHING nowadays...except in the UK, because they are banned there. ;)

Phelps and his crew are beyond disturbing.
:scared:

With our luck, that bunch would find a meteorite in space (where he would eventually end up if every country got to do that) and they whole crew would ride back down to Earth with their hateful messages on placards.

What a nightmarish hellish hateful bunch they are. They remind me of the horrible extended family my mother, thankfully, spared me ever having to be around. I'll never forget when one of them started telling her she was going to hell, and so was I, for not going to church. She said to them: "Well, I might be going to hell, but do me one last favor, will ya? When you get there, pretend you don't know me." That has been one of my favorite lines in the world ever since. "When ya get there, pretend ya don't know me." :rofl: I come by it honest, didn't I? :evilgrin:

she voted yes on 8 and lives in CA. She is in her 80's and those stupid commercials swayed her. All the way up to the last week she was going to vote no.

I kept thinking I know she will be watching the oscars...

I can't think of anything he has done that I have not loved.
Even Fast Times at Ridgemont High.:)
I adored "I am Sam" and "Mystic River"...I loved that he cared enough to take a boat to NOLA to do rescue on his own.
And I cannot wait to see Milk. I know I won't be disappointed.

He is pure. He IS the real deal.

Supporting hate is and will always be a shameful thing, no matter how "popular" it is at the time.

I'm sure many of us on this board (like me) had some ancestors who owned slaves or were against giving women the vote or opposed interracial marriage or were involved in anti-labor activities or, you name the struggle, we're all related to people on the wrong side somehow....was it our fault personally? No. But are we ashamed of them being on the wrong side of the historical arc's bend towards justice, and rightfully so? Yes.

can be against gay marriage. I think it has to do with the fact that gay people have always had a presence in popular culture in a way that many didn't with older generations. We have reality shows like MTV that have always shown glbt people, so even in a place like rural Montana where a kid may not personally know any glbt people, they know they are just regular people trying to live their lives like everyone else. I think I read that gay marriage is more accepted by under 30 evangelicals than it is New Deal Democrats 65 and older.

I'm 20 and NONE of my friends are against gay marriage, even if they identify as "Republicans".

Come on, we all watch Project Runway and freakin' love Tim Gunn.

Penn was absolutely correct. 50 years from now... every person who opposed gay marriage will be looked at in the same way as those who opposed integration and interracial marriage.

They will be looked at for the shameful, hate filled people they are.

There is no excuse for what is going on in America today. But someday, they will make movies about this the same way they make movies about the Civil War. Someday, calling someone a queer, with a hateful intent, will be considered just as despicable a thing as calling someone the "N" word.

I remember watching TV as a kid and being so appalled when I found out how Black people had been treated in the past. I asked my mother if it was true and she told me that it was shameful. But then... then, years later, I heard my father call Obama the "N" word during the elections and it made me want to puke.

My parents, my mom especially, realize that it is wrong... and are slowly changing day by day... but they do not understand, and are in denial about how people in my generation feel. When I talk about having dated black people and a black boy I currently have a crush on... I see how they cringe. They say how they'd feel so sorry for the children in an interracial couple because kids would never accept it and would make fun of them. And I just think, "really? none of my friends would? maybe you don't realize how out of touch your generation is with what is going on in the school halls these days?"

try to "shame" them.

fucking idiot.

why not, with this great podium, attempt to convince them of their illogical ways? talk to them about our sameness. like milk would have in that movie you just stared in?

no. that's not sean. he would rather shit on them. great pr, sean. well done.

Sean Penn thinks of them. He's preaching to the choir. Nothing wrong with that, but he didn't change any minds last night.

Or do you think that people should be cowards when it comes to confronting bigotry, like Holder was discussing the other day?

Which is it?