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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:18 PM
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Remember when Bin Laden said he would bankrupt us?
I think Bush wanted to beat him to it. What a one-two punch those two were.
Well, we have met the enemy and he is us!
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:21 PM
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1. Though it started before both those clowns reared their ugly heads...
I think if Bush allowed the 2001 recession to take its course (rather than engineer the housing/mortgage boom to hide it), this could of been a soft landing with a moderate recovery.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:02 PM
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12. He NEEDED the housing bubble/ low interest/ EZ-Credit & two wars
to MASK the horrendous unemployment/underemployment that was starting to rear its head

Every guardsman/reservist who left for war, left a job that some other person could fill, and that would llift them from the unemployment rolls..
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:25 PM
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2. so far both wars are costing 3 trillion dollars estimated
and that doesnt include hidden costs..and some rich friends of corporate whore politicians made out like bandits and still are, as long as these wars continue..and whomever hit us on 9/11, Bin Laden or anyone else, knew that we would react like braggarts and bullies, rather then use self reflection about America's role in the world. Our knee jerk reaction cost us our country. And we are bankrupt, and we did it to ourselves.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:47 PM
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10. Link please.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:33 PM
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15. from 2007
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2007-10-23-wacosts_N.htm
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 06:39 AM
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17. That's 8 billion less than the CBO estimates for the stimulus.
It should also be noted the CBO also said the stimulus would actually hurt the economy in the long run. Obviously money spent at home is better than money spent on war though. Hopefully Obama's fiscal responsibility plan will mitigate both, reinstating and making permanent the line item veto would go a long way. Though it could be misused by future repub administrations. Thanks for the link.

David
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:25 PM
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3. Who needs terrorists when you have Republicans?
Fuck, they're like bin Laden's personal Fairy Godmother.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:25 PM
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4. Bin Laden did not Bankrupt America, Republicans did.
No one can tell me a bunch of ragged old men living in caves on the other side of the world really has any influence upon America that we don't give them. They are not even as well equiped or trained as regular street hoods in almost any US city.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:44 PM
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6. Thats sort of a responsibility cop out a bit...
Because all those Mc Mansion dwelling, republican voting constitutes who were loving the big life and mass consumerism had some small share, eh? America (its system, philosophy, and culture) bankrupted itself. We have an insatiable desire for an unsustainable pattern of living.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:10 AM
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20. I think history proves you wrong
Virtually every Republican Administration since Hoover has put the US into Recession. Recession only happened in one Democratic Administration. History shows how the economy fairs under Republicans. The last time the Republicans had a Majority in both houses and the Administration we had the Great Depression. This time may even be worse. This is a Republican created problem and it will be a Democratic created recovery.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:34 AM
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22. Im not talking about partisan politics
Im talking about culture and philosophy of the American people. There is a price to pay for unrealistic, unsustainable living. We are now paying it.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:39 AM
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23. Exactly. Put those fuckers in GitMo. Thats where they deserve to be.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:42 PM
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5. I think perhaps they worked together ...
:tinfoilhat: OBL let Bush use him as the 'bogey man' to bum-rush the Clinton/Gore Surplus for "the war on terra", Bush/Cheney et al got filthy rich on the wargames and while the rest of the country was distracted by Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting, Enron and other wanna-be's set their wheels in motion.

Remember after 9/11, Bush told everyone to 'shop'!! :wtf:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:48 PM
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7. "Our enemies will never cease of thinking of new ways to harm America...
and neither will we."
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:26 PM
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8. I'm not afraid of our "enemies."
We are capable of screwing up big time with or without them.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:41 PM
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9. Obama's papa is a SUPER RICH
dude....his company constructs anything and everything. He is comparable to Mr. Bechtel of this nation. In fact they worked together constructing the city of Riyadh.

W needed Osama and Osama needed W. The Saudis worry about their people uprising....their people do very little...the hard work is done by imported slaves from Pakistan, Phillipines, etc. But the oil is running out......
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:50 PM
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11. umm I think your B should have been an S
Just saying ....
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:26 PM
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24. Sorry...nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:04 PM
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13. Osama's dad died decades ago.. the company is run by the LARGE family
one of whom was having breakfast with Poppa Bush on 9-11-01
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:29 PM
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25. Papa started the company, I believe...
bin laden Construction Company. I worked on the Riyadh Airport but that was decades ago.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:49 PM
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26. He did, but there are so many heirs, that probably none of them are insanely rich
these days..
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 02:13 PM
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29. Utilizing those Cost Plus
contracts, I'm sure they're making plenty of $$$ for all of the family. But with the World Wide Re/Depression, maybe they've hit a sticky patch...too bad for the rich!
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:32 PM
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14. That's how we won the Cold War. Osama just turned the tables and beat us at our own game.
Pretty much struck first and let us do the rest. Worked like a charm.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 12:25 AM
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16. I used to have a cool .gif of Bush pointing at Bin Laden saying "I'll destroy America B 4 U!"
Sorry looked for it but can't find it. I'll edit the post if I do. Cool little gif. And sadly true.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 08:56 AM
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18. Well he lit the fuse ...
but capitalism built the bomb.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:06 AM
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19. yup, but it is our right wing rethugs who have done it.
domestic enemies.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 09:50 AM
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21. I remember that- he's fucking laughing his ass off right now.
I kinda think this was sort of his plan all along and the previous idiot in charge handed it to him.
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scd1008 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:16 PM
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27. yep
He was a whole lot smarter than we thought
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scd1008 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:24 PM
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28. But once again.......
The neo-cons were foolish enough to want to relive WWII.
They thought that rolling into Baghdad was like the liberation of Paris Ca.1944.
The Bush people were barely 'dry behind the ears'(trust me I knew a few) and they thought they had it all figured out.
Well............here we are !
What a mess.

Regards
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