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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:21 PM
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What are your opinions on dress codes for clubs?
There has been a recent discussion about the dress codes in an entertainment area in Kansas City. The argument is that the dress code is too strict and their has been arguments about loosening it. What are people's opinions of dress codes in general? I have been a bouncer, I am quite aware of the importance of maintaining a dress code in order to maintain peace, but I know others disagree.

What do you think?
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:23 PM
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1. A private club should be able to have whatever dress code they want.
It wasn't that long ago many restaurants required jackets and ties and had spares for those without.
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:26 PM
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5. Added wrinkle....
What if the club in question was part of a TIF project? i.e A project that was partially tax payer funded?
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:28 PM
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6. I assume the club leases space from the city... if so then no problem.
If the city itself is the manager of the club well I still think a dress code is in order but why is the city running a club?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:25 PM
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2. I think private business should be able to regulate the dress code as they see fit
No shirt, a shirt with profanity, a t-shirt, business casual... these are all types of attire that might not fit in well depending on where you are. :shrug:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:25 PM
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3. Posers trying to outdo each other.
Most of the real monied folks I've met in my lifetime wouldn't be caught DEAD in a club shallow enough to enforce a dress code.
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:32 PM
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10. They must live in a real nice area then....
Clubs I worked at closed down because of a lack of dress code. It doesn't take long to lose a liquor license when you have several shooting outside from club goers.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:34 PM
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11. So, are you saying that not having a dress code leads to shootings?
I'd love to read your explanation of that.
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:38 PM
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13. Step by step process....
1. Club opens in an area that is vibrant but near higher crime areas.
2. Club decides to not have a very strict dress code.
3. Club allows people with "thuggish" attire into the club.
4. People with said attire get into a fight in the club.
5. People with said attire are kicked out of club.
6. People with said attire go to their cars to get a gun.
7. People with said attire start shooting.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:46 PM
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19. I'm trying to picture someone with "thuggish" attire
Okay, I get it.

Why not just put up a sign, "Whites Only" or "No Punks or Gang Members Allowed"?

Honestly, that's what it sounds like.

I've certainly never been a bouncer, so I'll take your word for it.
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:53 PM
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24. Good...
We both agree you don't know what you are talking about....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:55 PM
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25. Yup. That's it.
Schools have the same dress codes. No bandanas. No certain color laces.

It's some pretty stupid shit.
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:39 PM
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14. You avoid the riff raff, gang members and the like.
A strong dress code can keep clubgoers safer.

Criminals and thugs tend not to dress for success.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:08 PM
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29. So you're sayin' someone in a suit won't commit crimes?
Republicans come to mind.
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ozu Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:13 PM
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30. typically not ones that cause a club to lose their liquor license
I somehow doubt the club would care if someone was insider trading in their private booth.
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:22 PM
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32. They may steal from the till but they won't shoot up the club.
:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:46 PM
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18. Here in DC the Cosmos Club and Chevy Chase Club have dress codes. nt
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:47 PM
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20. My experience is the opposite
Most people I know with real money (a lot of it old money) wouldn't be caught dead in a place that didn't have some sort of dress code.
As one of my friends often says, "If you're worth a million dollars then for God's sake dress like it."
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:26 PM
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4. who can afford to go to a club? nt
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:30 PM
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7. I'm okay with it
I think any club, private or even public, has the right to enforce a dress code that is in keeping with the intended atmosphere of the club
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:30 PM
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8. Owners of the clubs have every right to dictate dress codes
If they want "stylish" people, they surely will not be allowing people in with shorts & flip-flops....and "gang-attire" is pretty much a no-no most places these days..
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:30 PM
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9. If they're not playing D&D in the club, its not worth it. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:30 PM
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35. Excuse me, sir, but what's the dress code for the GWAR show?
I brought my giant, two handed Styrofoam broadsword.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:38 PM
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12. I don't think I have ever been to a club with a dress code
They have a guest list. If the bouncer doesn't think you should enter you aren't on the list.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:41 PM
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15. Is this a municipal law, or the decision of each individual club?
This much I know: There's some kick-ass blues joints in KC that would clear out if they tried to enforce a dress code.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:43 PM
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16. Their club, their rules
I'm fine with it, anyone who isn't doesn't have to patronize the club.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:43 PM
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17. Up to the club owner.
It's his business, his rules.
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bosbdd2009 Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:49 PM
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21. Two Points

If it's a private business the owner can do whatever he wants, dress code, or not. But I am sure a dress code will hurt business, so if I owned the club I would not have a dress code.

I dont believe in dress codes, unless it's at work, and you work in an office, or in retail, etc. I used to go to a club that had a policy of no hats, but so many people tried to go in with hats they got rid of that policy because it cost them a lot of business.

So the owner could have a dress code, but it will probably hurt business, and is he not in business to make money, so I would think there should not be a dress code.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:50 PM
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22. I have no problem with it....
I enjoy an occasional "dress-up".
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:51 PM
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23. Considering downtown Denver is club/gunfight central . . .
I'd say whatever they can do to keep down the violence is a good idea.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 07:57 PM
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26. It's up to the club. Thats what a club is all about.
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blockhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:04 PM
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27. which club?
up here it's either the Eagles, Elks, or Moose club.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:13 PM
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31. Yah, or even the VFW club, then.
I'm not sure if they have a dress code, though. I've seen some pretty darned strange clothes in the VFW near me, especially in the winter, doncha know.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:05 PM
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28. (shrug) It's a cute way to keep black folks out.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:25 PM
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33. Dress codes are stupid in general.
For nightclubs doubly so.
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Fountain79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:31 PM
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36. Why? n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:47 PM
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38. Because if you're going out to have a few drinks and dance
what does it matter if you're wearing sneakers or a tank top or a hat? It's stupid.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:29 PM
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34. I think everyone who goes out to see live music should be forced to dress like this:


But that's just me.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 08:45 PM
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37. Far out....
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