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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:31 AM
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Medicaid privatization experiment in trouble in Florida.
The bill has worked this way:

When it passed in 2005, Gov. Jeb Bush touted the five-year pilot, which operates similar to an HMO, as a national model for improving care while limiting state costs. Since then, a flood of critics say the program is mired in bureaucracy, and patients complain they struggle to get treatment.

An Associated Press study found that nearly 25 percent of doctors in Broward and Duval counties have dropped out of the plan, saying the pilot limits them from treating patients as they see fit.

Under the pilot, the government pays private companies a set amount for handling a specific number of residents. The companies decide their care, including which doctors they see and what medicines and treatments are prescribed.


Here is more on the program.

Bill Limits Medicaid Pilot Program

A lawmaker has filed a bill seeking to limit the state's authority to operate a Medicaid privatization experiment even as state officials have begun to take a stand against the troubled pilot program.

The proposal seeks to revoke the Agency for Health Care Administration's power to get money from the federal agency which helps fund the pilot program. Rep. Elaine Schwartz, D-Hollywood, said her office is flooded with residents who can't get doctor's appointments and medicine. Schwartz said she would have filed a bill to stop the pilot program altogether, but the deadline had passed.

Officials in Broward County, the largest of five participating, passed a resolution saying they want out of the troubled pilot because residents are delayed medical treatment.


Here is more about Florida's care (or lack thereof) of the needy and disabled.

The Florida Legislature plans to discontinue Medicaid payments to the medically needy, excluding pregnant women and children, and the elderly and disabled — a group that contains 40,000 individuals — effective July 1, in order to save the state nearly $700 million.

In 2007 ,the budget-strapped Legislature voted to cut benefits to people with disabilities who get Medicaid money to pay for housing, job training, therapy and transportation. In the next two months, the state agency that manages the payments will begin rolling out the cuts.

The 31,000 people statewide who now receive an uncapped amount of money each year will be grouped into four categories, each with a different limit. That means some people will get less money.

State officials say the cuts are necessary in these tough economic times. They also say, however, that capping the payments will enable the state to serve more people.

..."The indigent-care plan, in which 19,020 Polk residents were enrolled during this fiscal year, must shrink to about 3,000 people to make up a deficit expected to be $14 million to $15 million, Assistant County Manager Lea Ann Thomas said.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:36 AM
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1. Remind me. How much $$ are 'we' giving Wall Street again?
:grr:

On the backs of the elderly and the impoverished.

America, Fuck Yeah!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:43 AM
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2. Well Jebby might have done us a favor, somebody call the Administration
and show why private sector cannot be involved in this. Healthcare should never ever have a profit motive
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:44 AM
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3. Republican plan fails..... ummm...... this is news?!?!?!?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:55 AM
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5. Looks like it was pretty successful to me. It screwed the needy and profited the rich.
That's been the goal of every new Republican plan since about 1980.
Looks like this one was fairly successful, by its own Repub standards.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:44 AM
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4. "improving care while limiting state costs..."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:11 AM
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6. Hoo boy.
The many benefits of privatization. Meanwhile, in Washington. . .
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:15 AM
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7. Thanks! Remember me asking you about this about a month ago
Those cuts to transportation would kill me. I depend on Med Ride paid by Tenncare, our medicaid program.

Looks like I'll have to freeze through a few more TN winters
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:20 AM
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8. Yes, I remember that. Just ran across this info today.
Don't know if it affects all areas of FL or if it is just certain areas. The conservatism here is not "passionate"...

I hate to think of you in those cold winters. :hi:
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:41 PM
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12. Our TennCare failures killed my step-father.
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 01:41 PM by Kalyke
My parents are working class with pre-existings. They paid a sliding-scale fee to TennCare since it's existence since he wasn't offered insurance through work and she had pre-existing conditions.

Bredesen - oh, ye of, "I'm the only Dem governor threatening not to take the Obama Stimulus" fame - cut them off TennCare, despite the fact that they paid - they PAID.

They couldn't afford private health insurance. They searched, they shopped, they tried to see if they could bend paying something else. No luck. Mom's pre-existings (diabetes) made private health care out of their working-class reach.

Within the year, he was in the hospital, suffering from pain in his groin and a high fever. No health insurance. They sent him home. Would not admit him. He went back the next night, collapsed in the ER and never woke up. He died of toxic shock three days later when Mom pulled the plug because all his organs were failing.

If he'd had insurance, they might have admitted him on the first night.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:43 PM
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13. Oh, that is so tragic.
It infuriates me to think that Bredesen was even considered for HHS.

What a sad story and happening in our country now way too much.

:cry:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:20 AM
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9. So it didn't work? How can that be? Oh, yes, it was a Republican idea.
Ergo it didn't work because the idea was crap to begin with.

My heart goes out to fellow Floridians hurt by yet another stupid idea implemented by former Governor Bush and his all-too-common ilk.

Mad, nary a day goes by that you don't post something that makes me grateful all over again that I left the state many years ago. The rot has run very deep.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:58 AM
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10. Yes, the rot does run deep
Just picture the fact that Jeb has his own education group going here, and he is still active behind the scenes. Just under the surface.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:35 PM
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11. "killing people with red tape" in the counties with this program.
http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/469923.html

""The HMOs are taking too much in administrative fees," Schwartz said. "There isn't enough money in the pot to make any money so the care is compromised. The physicians are dropping out. The drug formulas are a nightmare. People can't get medical care."

Broward, with about 1.6 million residents, is the largest to be part of the program. The others are Duval, Clay, Baker and Nassau. Dr. Aaron Elkin, a longtime obstetrician in Broward, says he used to treat patients in their first trimester of pregnancy, which is the best time to initiate prenatal care. Since the pilot, Elkin says most of his Medicaid patients aren't able to see him until well into their second trimesters.

"There is decreased access, inaccurate information provided, there are more costs, there is poorer care, there are less services, more forms, less satisfaction and no informed choice," he said in a statement. "As you may know, this reform was called an experiment. In the U.S., we cannot do an experiment on the most vulnerable population."

...Broward County resident Richard Stein was among about a dozen who urged the commission to pass the resolution Tuesday. His ailing live-in girlfriend has had trouble getting appointments and medicine.

"You are killing people with red tape in the Medicaid reform counties," he has said previously."

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