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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:50 AM
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Republican Group launches health care offensive
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 10:52 AM by Mr. Sparkle
Group launches health care offensive
By: Jonathan Martin
March 3, 2009 04:18 AM EST

Firing some of the first shots in the coming showdown over health care, a conservative group led by the former owner of the Hospital Corporation of America is beginning a multimillion-dollar campaign Tuesday in opposition to government-run coverage.

Conservatives for Patients Rights is going on TV, radio and the Web in the same week President Barack Obama hosts a health care summit at the White House. The group’s leader, Richard Scott, is hoping a pro-free-market message will rally the right to join the fray on what may be the most hard-fought policy battle in the first year of the new administration.

“If we have more government involvement we’re going to have dramatically worse health care,” said Scott, the wealthy health care executive who is overseeing the effort and seeding it with $5 million of his own cash.

Scott, a major GOP donor, is pushing for four principles to any health care reform package: individual choice, competition between carriers, giving patients’ ownership over their own coverage and rewarding those who make healthy lifestyle choices.

“I want health care reform to happen but I want it the right way,” Scott said.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19542.html

so to recap, a former owner of the Hospital Corporation of America has formed a group called "Conservatives for Patients Rights". In fact they should have called the group "keep the status quo". They care for Patients rights as much as George Bush did for the the American Constitution.

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:53 AM
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1. So They Are Really Creative In Their Plan To Change Healthcare......
1. individual choice
2. competition between carriers
3. giving patients’ ownership over their own coverage
4. rewarding those who make healthy lifestyle choices

So what's the difference with what we have now?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:54 AM
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2. I love how none of their four principles concern actual PAYMENT
for health care. As in, how do I afford to pay thousands upon thousands if I get sick and have no insurance? They operate under the assumption that everyone is insured, and it's just a matter of "tweaking" to get a better health care system. Ridiculous.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:58 AM
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5. How do you afford to pay thousands upon thousands even if you DO have insurance?
Most people have an out-of-pocket deductible, stop-loss coverage, co-pays and additional expenses.

I'm lucky. My employer provides health care for me and my family, but it doesn't come without expenses on my part - and it's not because my employer requested it, it's because the insurance carrier MANDATES these out-of-pocket expenses and still went up 13 percent.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:04 AM
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7. True--I don't have to pay out-of-pocket for mine (military health care), but I know
that most people do, and it eats up a big part of the family budget--and that's the best scenario most families can hope for.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:09 AM
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8. Of course they don't.
Their mantra is status quo, regardless of how untenable status quo becomes. They obviously could care less as the costs of health care in the present system consume an ever growing percentage of GDP. As it is with all the other policy positions the conservatives are taking, ideology trumps common sense.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:26 AM
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11. I love "individual choice"--I'd bet most uninsured would choose to be INSURED, and actually
receive health care that doesn't bankrupt them, rather than have the "choice" of every doctor and facility in the country that they'll NEVER be able to afford to visit without insurance (or even WITH insurance). It's a bizarre argument--choice only matters to those who can afford to be choosers--the rest of us are essentially beggars.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:55 AM
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3. what is dramatically worse
than no health care?
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:56 AM
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4. Keeping health care status quo is offensive to me and my co-workers,
not to mention the 46 million Americans who, unlike me and my co-workers, have no insurance at all.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:09 AM
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9. I believe the 46 million without health care figure
should be more than 48 million..48 million was last year's figure. Many more have lost their health insurance because of massive layoffs in the work force.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:01 PM
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13. I'd round it up to 50 million, to be safe.
With constant lay-offs and companies opting to take away health insurance coverage to keep from having to lay off employees, the $50 million is probably more likely.

You make a good point.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:01 AM
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6. Foxes organize to benefit chickens' welfare
Mm hmm :eyes:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:26 AM
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10. “I want health care reform to happen but I want it the right way,” Scott said.
That is why Conservatives that had complete control over the Government for the last decade worked so damn hard to accomplish this....Their word is completely worthless. They have lost any and all credibility they ever had on virtually every single subject. They are basically out and out LIARS
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:58 AM
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12. Their offensive is offensive to me.
The last thing we need in health care is to stay the course.
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:04 PM
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14. The Republican party is built on Stay the Course since Reagan
It is amazing to think the damage he did to the country back in the 80's .
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