Meghan McCain now realizes that politics does matter when it comes to dating, and I agree

Of course, this is a personal choice so there really is no right or wrong. I'm sure it has been very challenging for a young woman to come of age in the spotlight with a her dad being John McCain. Here is a piece of her recent comments regarding her dating frustrations:



Speaking for myself, I can't fathom being in any kind of long term relationship with a Republican woman. I find the values and inherent rethug beliefs around personal freedoms, waging war, and keeping religion separate from government (just to name a few of many) to be polar opposite from what I believe. I definitely still need anger management at my rage towards what Shrub and Shooter did to our country, the idea of dating any woman who actually swallowed that wingnut swill as truth is a major turn off.

I love the way liberal woman think and see the world; and I have found that on balance, y'all have the same values of worldly compassion and play. My girlfriend shares my liberal rants to a T; minus she does a better job of not letting the anger over the past 8 years get to her.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I'll admit to having some fun with a republican woman (or two) before the question of politics became relevant --- but our political differences were an absolute deal killer when it came to any longer term considerations. I know some folks manage relationships as a political odd couple, I just can't imagine it.

What about you? :shrug:

the political views of anyone I might date matter.

I could not spend any serious time with a conservative man, let alone a real right-winger. I am amazed at how many here on DU have a spouse who is on the other side of the political spectrum. Of course, we all change over the years, and couples often do move apart. But if I'm going to date or marry again (recently divorced and it had nothing to do with politics) it would only be with someone who was pretty progressive in his thinking.

Heck, it's bad enough having friends or co-workers who are Republicans, but to live with someone like that? Shudder.

And like you Sheila, our divorce (now 10 years ago) had nothing to do with politics. Our values anyway around politics, religion, recycling etc. were a good match. Thankfully, we are now friends and our 2 teenagers are also HUGE Obama supporters. :)

Best wishes finding the right (man on the left) down the road when your ready...

I'm at the point, since my divorce is fairly recent, that I can't imagine being interested in anyone again, but I realize that one never knows.

:fistbump:

While I still view love as being principally a social construct to control our hormonal urges, I don't think that I'd be strong enough to prevent myself from starting a relationship with someone I'm really attracted to.
Sometimes opposites attract. I'm with a libertarian girl right now, but she's still wonderful.

If someone is a "good person", then I really don't give about their political beliefs.

But a free-market liberal and socially-free libertarian like us probably have a bigger potential to lasting longer than say, a stereotypical neocon and socialist.

Love is love is love.

Love is a good starting point.

:hi: :woohoo: Welcome aboard! :)

Thanks for the welcome post :)

values are. I could never treat someone's political beliefs as a hobby I could somehow put to the side and ignore.

that I would have left him if I'd found out he was a Republican. Actually, he was apolitical and had never registered to vote until he and I became a couple. Now he's very interested in politics and votes in every election.

Meghan is pretty obviously suffering from the reflected glare of her father's limelight, not her own.

I've personally had a conservative GF who I had a great relationship with, and at least two lefties who made my life miserable. Generally, it works the other way around. So I don't think politics is always relevant.

BUT ... if politics is a big part of one's life, there is no way that it won't intrude on your love life.

Meghan does not appear to be as conservative as her father, and she may well be a progressive Democrat for all we know. But she is being judged by her father's politics. I assume she is dating "men" in their early-to-middle 20s, who are not always the most perceptive of creatures. She is going to have to find a guy who can accept her NOT as Meghan MCCAIN, but as MEGHAN McCain.

Good luck to her ... and I also think we ought to invite her to a few Democratic social events. How 'bout it?

--d!

She's a SPOILED twenty-something who acts like she's 15..

Men her age, who would consider going out with her are probably already known to her..and they are probably sons-of ..of people in her parents' circle

Politics is the lifeblood of their family, so of course she will probably only meet people of her own "level"..

Meghan needs to go off on her own for a while, or just settle for what she finds circling the drain of her father's political career..

:shrug:

This is a problem that is common to young people across the political spectrum. Chelsea Clinton had similar problems in her early 20s; IIRC, so did Amy Carter. People always assume that the kids share their parents' politics 100% -- and if they're from the "enemy's" party, they're always described as "spoiled".

John McCain, and to a lesser degree, Cindy, are guilty of their own sins. Meghan should not be lumped together with them until such time as she has proven herself to share their crimes.

Yep, I said the same thing about the Bush twins, and I can recall saying the same thing about Nixon's daughters. Liberals couldn't stand Trisha and Julie, but they turned out to be unfashionably liberal among the GOP Ladies' Club. Eisenhower's heirs likewise turned out to be "traitors" in the eyes of conservative Republicans. Reagan had at least two lefty kids (Patti and Ron Jr.). Sometimes the apple really does fall far from the tree. And based on other (and Google-able) statements from Meghan McCain, I wouldn't put it past her to run for office someday -- as a Democrat.

--d!

“It was disgusting. Just gross. I don’t listen {to Rush}.”
-- Meghan McCain on Rush Limbaugh’s mocking of {Michael J.} Fox during the 2006 congressional elections.
(http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2008/03/caps-font-var-1.html">Source.)

to have these issues. It just is what it is..

When Mom & Dad are just ordinary people, and the friends & loved-ones atttracted by the kids, are more likely to be attracted BY them and NOt their access to money/fame/influence/whatever..
If Mom works at Sears & Dad's a salesman, the people who date/marry/pal-around-with their grown/nearly-grown children are probably "in it" because of the KID..not the "family"..

It's also probably the main reason why so many "children-of" end up marrying within the sphere of their elders.. Unless they go off to school and meet someone and then stand up to the family, they probably end up with people they already know or whose families "know each other".

From what I know about Meghan, there is no doubt that she appears quite immature for her age..

It works mostly because she's largely apolitical (I had to keep on her and her siblings just to vote in the last election). Of course, when I get worked up and go on a rant, she either doesn't care/understand why exactly I'm upset or she gives me a neutral, non-committal "yeah". It can get a little annoying sometimes.

I know a lot of people cringe at the hyperbole, but it is a useful construct to determine what your actual limits are. I've dated a few Republican women, but converted them relatively quickly. I guess that is the difference to me, they were smart, open minded and interested in the truth (all such people are potential democrats).

However, like you, I'm absolutely enraged at Shrub et al. I would view dating even a tepid Shrub supporter as utterly impossible. Pretty face don't make no pretty heart.

Mysister is in a nursing home due to a stroke, she can feed herself but has trouble focusing. She will walk in other people rooms because she does not know danger. She has been falling lately due to the meds.

f I am adult enough to understand that voting is one of the most personal things a person can do, why am I letting it affect how attracted to someone I am?

Well, yeah...it's personal, like sex. It's the intense personal things that are the MOST important when establishing compatibility, not the surface stuff.

I feel kind of bad for her: to go through the intense spotlight of a political campaign, and on the losing side at that. Makes sense that it would play hell with her love life. It'll pass and she'll get on with her life, but it's got to be pretty awkward right now.

No, I couldn't sustain a relationship with a conservative Republican, I don't think. Our values are just too different - a certain amount of disagreement and spirited debate is healthy and sexy, but constant arguments with someone I don't agree with on anything important are just draining as hell.

I could handle disagreements on some issues. Maybe a libertarian-type conservative. But I would never have sex with a man who wasn't pro-choice (that's just self-preservation talking) or with a homophobe (homophobia is total deal-breaker for me because I find it repulsive -- and also self-preservation because I don't want lame hangups about sexuality in my life.)

We didn't get married, but I did have fun corrupting her. And corruption is the name of the game. Let's just say we did some things I can't talk about on here since it's a "family site".