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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:05 PM
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Will Americans be as patient with Obama as they were with FDR?
Before FDR took office, Hoover presided over the first three years of the Great Depression, and that gave even stubborn Republican loyalists and other slow learners time to grasp that Hoover and his party helped make the economy a mess, and were only making it worse.

Obama was lucky to at least have the economic shit seriously hit the fan a few months before he took office rather than a few months after, but no matter what he does now, he's going to preside over a fair amount of downward slide before things turn around, even by optimistic predictions for recovery.

As brain-dead as these memes are, they already out there for the gullible to feed on: It was Clinton who broke the economy, it was Democrats pushing for homes for poor people who caused all of these bad mortgages, tax cuts are the cure for everything, etc.

If the economy is still in the dumps by late 2010, will these memes gain traction, and sweep in a bunch of Limbaugh-esque Republicans? Will an Obama stuck with a Republican Congress be forced to watch the economy sink further in the face of Republican obstructionism, then end up with the blame and lose to a Republican in 2012?

I seriously hope not. I have to hope that even if economic recovery is slow, voter memory won't be as short as I fear it is, that people will still remember that it was primarily Republican policy and corruption that got us into this mess. Then again, Bush's failure should have be plain as daylight in 2004 to everyone, but there were still enough idiots to reelect Bush anyway.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:08 PM
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1. no, we as a people are now 'short attention span' and
'instant gratification'
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:10 PM
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3. beat me to it.
'Delayed Gratification' and 'Patience' both seem to be words no-one remembers the definition of. :(
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:12 PM
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4. neither of mentioned that we want to be 'entertained'
rather than 'informed' which is another facet of the entire problem
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:09 PM
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2. FDR didn't have a corporate whore media working against him.
He would have never been elected in the first place, had that been the case.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:13 PM
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5. Exactly what I was thinking. The media will try to shape
Obama's success on their terms which favor corporate power. Obama is smart thought and knows how to get to the people despite the MSM if he did not Hillary would be our president right now.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:24 PM
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7. Oh, yes he did.
Just as bad, only with very different forms and tools.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:24 PM
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11. but not in the "instantaneous" impact aspect as this is ...
radios were not portable then, and they didn't have TVs on in restaurants tuned to the propaganda channel, and you weren't able, let alone allowed, to have a radio at your workplace ...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:30 PM
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9. Yes, he did. Newspaper editors were very much against him and Father Coughlin ranted on the radio..
every Sunday night against him.

As did Huey Long. Elizabeth Dilling. The MSM media loved them.

The Hearst line of papers hated him.








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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:24 PM
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6. In the 30's even the republicans realized they things were dire
Today, the republicants have one thing on their agenda, regaining control of the government at ALL costs.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:27 PM
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8. No comparison. People then expected so much less. And even less from Govt.
It's another case where FDR's success is what made conservatives out of a lot of newly-financially secure people.

FDR: Sad, but true.
ER: How soon the 'I got mine' crowd forgets!

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:31 PM
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10. I've already forgotten at least..
half the shit the Bush Administration did on a daily basis. Perception Management works wonders.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:25 PM
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12. the media megaphone wants an o.j. police chase everyday....FDR had the luxury of slow news
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