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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 02:20 PM
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Where Are the Other Memos? By: emptywheel
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 02:33 PM by kpete
Where Are the Other Memos?
By: emptywheel Tuesday March 3, 2009 10:59 am

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The Loopholes Remaining and the Outstanding Memos

Now, I consider these Bradbury comments very troubling given the memos that DOJ did not turn over.

But they've still just released 5 of the 41 memos that the ACLU has requested in FOIA proceedings (as well as two that were not on that list, plus Bradbury's two "no harm no foul" opinions). Where are the other memos? Why weren't they released yesterday? Is it because they're still active (and supporting torture and illegal wiretapping and whatnot??)
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/asset_upload_file655_38486.pdf

The question is especially pertinent given a few things Bradbury said in his January 15, 2008 "no harm no foul" opinion.

To dismiss several opinions authorizing torture, Steven Bradbury quotes at length responses he made to Teddy Kennedy in 2005 when he still had hopes of becoming OLC head.

The federal prohibition on torture ... is constitutional, and I believe it does apply as a general matter to the subject of detention and interrogation conducted pursuant to the President's Commander in Chief authority.

..................
January 15, 2008 "no harm no foul" opinion.

"The President, like all officers of the Government,
is not above the law.
"


He goes on from there. But then, in a passage not included in his responses to Kennedy (that is, a passage unique to this memo) he says,

"We recognize that a law that is constitutional in general may still raise serious constitutional issues if applied in particular circumstances to frustrate the President's ability to fulfill his essential responsibilities under Article II."

To Teddy Kennedy: The torture ban is constitutional and the President is not above the law.


In that memo, he reproduced a statement that he--Steven Bradbury--made to Teddy Kennedy at a time when he was angling for a promotion to head OLC, which made it seem that he--Steven Bradbury--absolutely believed the President had to abide by Congressional laws prohibiting torture. Then, in his memo from this January, he seems to dramatically limit the statement he made publicly to Kennedy--as much as saying the President is not above the law unless laws have been passed to "frustrate the President's ability to fulfill his essential duties." The "Presidential frustration" loophole (as I'll call it) is enough to raise some concerns.

...................

In other words, the memos released yesterday do as much to point to the loopholes that they've exploited to be able to keep torturing as they reveal any big reversal from those policies.

more at:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/03/03/where-are-the-other-memos/
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 02:30 PM
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1. It's my understanding that we WERE NOT AT WAR.
So therefore one could possibly conclude that the enemy combatant status was just a figure of someone's legal imagination.

It seems that the Bush administration was just a house of cards all stacked up to support their illegal actions.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 02:41 PM
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2. K&R
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 03:11 PM
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3. More Terror Memos May Be Released (NYT)
"More Terror Memos May Be Released

By NEIL A. LEWIS and CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: March 3, 2009

WASHINGTON — One day after releasing a set of Bush administration memorandums claiming sweeping presidential powers to bypass legal constraints when fighting terrorism, Justice Department officials said on Tuesday that they may soon disclose further secret opinions about interrogation, surveillance, and other national security policies.


Meanwhile, some lawmakers cited the disclosures of the nine formerly secret documents as a reason to have an independent commission review the development of the department’s legal opinions involving presidential powers in the global campaign against terrorism."

more

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/washington/04legal.html?_r=2&hp
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