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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:02 PM
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Franken Lawyers To Court: Throwing Out Election Is Not A Legal Option
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Franken Lawyers To Court: Throwing Out Election Is Not A Legal Option

By Eric Kleefeld - March 3, 2009, 4:47PM

The Franken legal team has written a letter to the judges in the election case, sharply rebutting the Coleman camp's new idea to nullify the whole election.

The letter mainly rebuts the Coleman camp's call to retroactively un-count a number of absentee ballots on a geographically-targeted basis. Team Franken argue that the binding case law says this is not a viable option, and that the court is not allowed to calculate that any illegal ballots favored one candidate over another -- that would be relieving Coleman of his responsibilities under the burden of proof.

Then they get to the proposition about throwing the election out:


Contestants' alternative and even more untimely suggest--that the election be set aside--fails as well. Not only has this remedy been applied primarily when there is evidence of fraud or systemic irregularities...but this Court lacks the authority to set aside the election. Its jurisdiction is limited to deciding which party received the highest number of legally cast votes, and therefore is entitled to receive the certificate of election... Any other remedy lies within the jurisdiction of the United States Senate.


And let's make no mistake, by the way. After this thing crisscrosses its way through the legal system, the United States Senate is probably where the fight will end up next, in light of the increasing noise from the Coleman campaign that the election is invalid.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:04 PM
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1. I'm 99.9% sure that Franken will join the Senate
...by June.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:06 PM
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2. Which year?
If roles had been reversed, Republicans would have been screaming to seat their boy immediately. And you know what? Democrats would have enthusiastically supported them.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:09 PM
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3. 2009
Plus or minus a year.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:13 PM
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5. Sorry I snapped.
You're probably right.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:16 PM
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6. I give ya 2010.
:shrug:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:10 PM
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4. Al Gore never called for the election to be thrown out
There were some activists in Palm Beach who wanted a do-over, but Gore never supported them.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:32 PM
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7. I half expect Harry Reid to support Coleman and the Repukes.
He is such a disappointment.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 06:40 PM
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8. I don't believe them that State election law lies with the US Senate.
Remember there is no Federal election. elections are a State action even though they cause the election of Federal Officers. I don't know whether that particular court has authority to suspend an election and request a new one but I am fairly certain that the US Senate has no authority to make any decisions on a State Election. The US Senate could seat Franken though and put an end to it all.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 07:10 PM
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9. Actuall, I don't think that's right. I think the Senate can seat or expel
its own members.
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