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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 04:07 AM
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Mormon Machine Cranking Up Against Illinois Civil Unions Bill
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 04:08 AM by FreeState
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/03/9359

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The Mormon Church maintains a private internet social-networking service in lieu of individual churches having their own Internet web sites. This allows the church to oversee the information that is made available to members and nonmembers. It also allows the church to maintain private information that is only made available to church members.

Among the many capabilities the web site has for members who are authorized to log in is the ability to send private email to other church members in the same ward. It also allows a ward bishop to send a blanket email to all members of his ward, and it allows a stake president to send a blanket email to all members of his stake.

But this is key: no individual member can send a blanket email to all members of his ward without it first going through his or her bishop. The same is true at the stake level, where the stake president would have to first authorize the message. So when a church member receives a broadcast message, he or she can be assured that it has the blessing, so to speak, of the bishop or stake president.

In a private email sent out to LDS members of at least one ward in Illinois, church members are being encouraged to call their representative to voice their opposition to the bill, which would provide same-sex couples with recognition and limited protections under Illinois law. But the official LDS-sanctioned email to members is loaded with much of the same misinformation that was present in the campaign against California’s Proposition 8.



Thoroughly lying through there teeth....

http://www.equalityutah.org/action/common.html

During and following California’s Proposition 8 campaign, the LDS Church declared it is not “anti-gay” and “does not object to rights for same-sex couples regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights.” On November 5th, Elder L. Whitney Clayton stated the LDS Church does not oppose “civil unions or domestic partnerships.” In response to these statements, Equality Utah has launched its Common Ground Initiative, designed to address each of the issues mentioned by the LDS Church. The majority of these items will be introduced as bills in the 2009 General Session of the Utah Legislature; however, Expanding Healthcare is initially being addressed as a policy change.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 01:59 PM
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1. Kick:) n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:04 PM
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2. Cripes!
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 02:05 PM by Starry Messenger
The Mormon church is like the bloody cylons. I feel so helpless when I read this stuff now. Is there anywhere we can donate money to oppose this crap?
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:30 PM
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6. We saw with Prop 8 donating doesn't do it.
They are too many, with too much influence. When your Bishop tells you to march, you march.

The Church is all about control. When I moved to a new neighborhood I had visitors at the door. They introduced themselves as "so and so, from such and such ward", and told me the Bishop liked to keep track of all new neighbors. I was so shocked I couldn't think for a split second, but then told them it was not any of the Bishop's business who I was, and to never darken my door again.

One thing that really gets them going is when people claim their religion is a cult. I once asked why the Mormon Church does not have crosses on their houses of worship. I was not given a straight answer, but the gentleman did insist they were of the Christian faith.

Their hopes are for Mittens to become the next President. They were devastated when he didn't make the final cut and blamed it on the Christian Conservatives in the South for defeating him based on "Religion". Perhaps we should make sure Mitt doesn't make the next cut. After living under the control of the Church making policy in this state, I could not imagine a Mormon in the White House. Horrors.

:scared:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:16 PM
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10. Well, they spent so much $$ on Prop 8 I was hoping they'd be tapped out
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 06:18 PM by Starry Messenger
at least for a year. This might be a good time to get through their firewall of cash, as it were. We were so close to defeating them this time! It kills me.

Yeah, no one really likes it when you call their religion a cult. I have a close relative in one, and you kind of have to dance around that word if you want to express concern. Most of these groups include training in how to stop thought when they hear the kind of criticism that someone like you or I might level at them casually. They've got it all scripted out beforehand and they just stop listening if you take the part of "critic", "sinner", "skeptic" or whatever their term for outsiders who criticize.

That's why they are dangerous. :(
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:09 PM
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3. But creating civil unions with all the same benefits of marriage makes sense.
Because the religious bigots would never go after them. Right?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:12 PM
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4. Wait, I thought nobody has a problem with civil unions
If us gays would just shut up and accept civil unions, we could have all of our rights.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:17 PM
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5. Thanks for this. I just called my state rep, Frank Mautino,
and voiced support for this bill. In fact, I told his aide that I wish it were a marriage equality bill.
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AyanEva Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 02:35 PM
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7. Isn't there something we can do
to make them GO AWAY? I've just about had it with the Mormon Church. Do they srsly NOT have anything better to do with their time?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 03:19 PM
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8. We cant make them go away - but we can and should
organize more people for equality over their brand of hate. Its becoming time for all supporters of equality to be visible to the point of shaming bigots - and than means every single democrat and republican or any party for that matter who supports equality needs to start talking to everyone they know until they are blue in their faces.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 04:45 PM
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9. Kick!
Some people on here to see this.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:06 PM
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11. It's not just the word, "marriage," they are against.
They want to beat us all the way down into a pulp of unrecognizable matter. Rights? They want to pulverize us and turn it into a sport. If any other group of people were targets by religious groups like the GLBT community is, there would be way more outrage on the left, at the very least, and possibly even some outrage on the right, believe it or not. But for some odd reason, it's open season on gay people and only getting worse.

I wonder how long before they start kidnapping us and have canned hunts where those types can literally take a shot at us and pay big money to stuff us and put us over the mantelpiece. It's really sick, if you stop and think about it for a second or two. What they are doing, one step at a time, is the precursor to what the Nazis did to Jewish people, gay people, and others in their death camps. It's sickening to the core.

I really hope more people will begin to see through the wool those people are trying to pull over people's eyes. Eventually people will get fed up with their bid to strip people of rights, but how long will we have to wait?
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