So my favorite Democrats Carville, Begala and Emanuel cooked up the Rush Limbaugh strategy

interesting.

I predict (and pray) that Emanuel is fired and banished by the end of the year. I truly hate that bastard.

They can't keep their friggin mouths shut can they?

main symptom..running off at the mouth..followed by long periods of inactivity

Victims are often heard to mutter "I'm-a-gonna-do"

I did not know at the time that the three musketeers were plotting this.

and none of what you hear.

This triumvirate idea sounds "cooked" to me................

Of course, I didn't like him in Congress so I was predisposed.

and Mary Matalin in her leather teddy listening in.

:scared:

I love him. He's exactly what our President needs - a smart, savvy Chicago pol who takes no prisoners.

President Obama knew what he was doing when he made his choice. If he's behind the "Rush Strategy" - if, in fact, there is one - then I applaud him. But, personally, I think it's more a matter of the GOPigs doing it to themselves and trying to blame anyone else. That's par for their course.

So, why don't you like Emanuel?

How so? I've never heard that about Emanuel.

I'd like to know more, please.

pro-insurance industry & anti-single payer. That's for starters. Jane Hamsher (FireDogLake) referred to him as "Obama's Cheney."

Really?

I think it takes a bit more than that.

Do you honestly believe President Obama would pick as his Chief of Staff a "neocon," as you characterize Emanuel?

Now, as to the assertions you've made about him, well, Bill Clinton was pro-NAFTA, too, as you might recall. Does that make him a "neocon"?

The insurance industry has lots of champions on Capitol Hill, both Democrats and Republicans, since they're the largest single lobbyist clientele in DC, so does that make all their donees "neocons"?

Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, lots of other members of Congress were "pro-war." Are they also "neocons"?

I don't know anything about Emanuel's stance on single-payer, so I can't comment.

But, I do think you are drawing on slight information to come up with a ridiculous assertion.

who is AIPAC's boy in the White House. If you did not know those two facts, you are ill-informed.

on edit: and having fought for Israel in their armed services, he has a lot more in common with Scooter Libby than he does with you.

but it doesn't make him a "neocon."

If you start labeling people on the Hill by their former jobs or their donors, you're gonna have a whole lot of "neocons."

Scooter Libby? That's an odd comparison.

You're Rush Limbaugh, aren't you?

I ask for sourcing, and you get all foul-language and upset.

Poor baby. I do hope you can soothe yourself. I suspect you're rather good at it..................

And AIPAC?

What Neocon points is he missing?

I know Clinton was pro-NAFTA. It's one of the major points on which I differ with him, but hardly the only one.

:shaking head sadly:

do you hear a loud clacking sound?

Or is it just a "whoooooooooosH' of air rushing through?

You really didn't handle this well at all. Perhaps having something to back up your ridiculous claims might help...............

Did you not note what I wrote about who supported the "war"?

As for AIPAC, check out all the supporters. Neocons all? So Hillary Clinton is a "neocon"?

I'm just weary of these mindless accusations that are, at their core, as your posts have demonstrated, meaningless.

Do all you "neocon detectives" get your hidden messages from the "smirk" on Emanuel's face when he's on TV?

This just became a laughable waste of my time --------------------------------------->

ferchrissake would he actually have to do to qualify as a neocon? He is, to be short and blunt about it, one of the prime architects of the American Empire.

Oh, you're digging it even deeper. Do you even know what a "neocon" is? It doesn't appear to me that you do.

I'm sure your heart is in the right place, but the idea of the American Empire is one of the funniest whackjob notions ever.

Have you noticed that we have a new President now? I can honestly understand how you'd be sucked into this AE idea during the past eight years, but now, well, things are in the process of changing.

American Empire. Oh, that's funny...................

It sounded like something they wanted for the DSCC, but I really don't know how much it was some big plot by the Obama white house cooked up by THEM. I don't really see the white house wasting as much energy on this as everyone claims they are. Whatever. It was a politico piece, so I'm suspect. I was reading on Wonkette how Politico supposedly has memos about how they encourage staffers to dominate the morning and afternoon, this seems more a matter of politico pretending to get a scoop than anything really substantial. And I'm not the biggest fan of Rahm either.

At least in bizzaro world.

for me. Seriously though, how does it play to moderates that with the country circling the toilet bowl, political operatives are cooking up schemes to get Limbaugh? Come on take a crack at that one, genius.

I also think that many of these moderates you speak of are less likely to be fooled by the GOP again if they know who the main GOP architects are.

Love him or hate him, Rahm was not lying when he characterized Limbaugh as a major force behind the GOP. Moderates do not agree with Limbaugh or his tactics, and many will put 2 and 2 together after all these apologies and back-slides.

As well, this is not just a "scheme to get Limbaugh"- last time I checked, this "scheme" took down Steele 5 or six nothces and has caused some serous infighting, confusion and embarassment amongst the obstructionist Republicans.

I could be wrong, but I've seen no viable counter argument from you either way.

I try not to because it never feels as good as you think its gonna feel.

The only backlash I've seen so far has been against the RNC, Jindal, Rush himself and the far right.

this. I want health care. There may be another dude or two out there who shares that opinion. Oh, and I'm a Socialist leaning liberal.

For all I know, you may be right about this "just backfiring" on Obama- but you certainly can't seem to tell us how or in what way.

Not that such facts or examples couldnt exist- its just that you have failed to provide such facts or examples.

Sorry to repeat myself on that, but you asked.

Any any event- please feel free to repost them by responding to this post- I dont mind giving you every opportunity to prove your point.

I just got told "to do (my) own fucking research," and when I pointed out that I wasn't the one making the assertions, well, let's just say that this DU member didn't handle it well.

MUST YOU BE REASONABLE?

<snort>

I think this is a natural evolution within the Republican party. They've been stepping on their own dicks for a long time, and this Rush thing reminds of what my old Italian grandmother always said:

"You spit up in the air, it lands in your face."

The agenda of the RW media and the RNC has dominated the teevee, radio, newspapers, everywhere you look, for decades.

Yet in spite of that, people voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

Sorry, but the One Party system is pulling this 'opposition' stuff out of its ass.

I thought they hoped that it failed, and meant it.

Opposing a major portion of Obama's agenda sounds like real 'oppostion stuff' to me, but what do I know?

But you are right about one thing- the public has grown tired of the message put forth by the the other party (they apparently see a difference b/t the two)- and there is no better time to CORRECTLY and FACTUALLY tie Rush style politics to the RNC, etc.

I believe in kicking them while they are down- b/c I dont want them to get up again for a while.

very glad this getting limpbaugh out from under a rock happened and set into motion by Obama. Finally, rush has to be held accountable on a grand scale for his bloviating against patriotic Americans in order to get the fascists running the country.

People need to find out that rush is so much more than an "entertainer" that he always hides behind. Dave Letterman was talking to Katie Couric about him the other night and saying he looked like a "Russian Mobster" with his flesh showing at the throat and that's one thing we did not need to see was more of rush's flesh".

and the mouths of the republicans who had to apologize.

It seems that Rush did plenty on his own.

planned this. Carville and Begala apparently initiated it by taunting Limbaugh, by name, on their cable appearances. When Limbaugh said what he did, it was their opening to fully go after him. This is what the country wants, not healthcare, not jobs, but to get Limbaugh.

..Who controls the GOP agenda? Not anyone in the party leadership -- its RUSH! How can they craft a coherent message and stay on it when the don't' control it. The focus of attention on Limpballs pushes the House and Senate GOP, McCain and Romney and the rest off stage. This is brilliant. They've set up this idiot as the voice of the opposition and deprived the GOP of any control over the agenda.

What's better is that politicians love the limelight and love power and love grandstanding and the focus on Limpballs makes the entire GOP leadership second string! The only way they can assert any independence is to repudiate him.

Either way we win!

Oh, honey, where have you been?

That site is nothing but a Republican outlet.

Don't believe what you read there. Not ever.

They merely gave Rush the rope to hang himself and the Rushicans. I'm lovin' it. :D

I'm vastly entertained by the folks who are believing - of all things - POLITICO!!!!!!!!!

It's sort of like believing Chimpy Fucknuts.

This is what happens when you appoint someone like Mike Steele - who is hopeless, truly hopeless - as head of the RNC.

I suspect the West Wing is dying laughing, just loving this like we are.

:toast:

on our side. I predict he makes republicans cry, often.

It's a beautiful sight to behold. :evilgrin:

further into oblivion.

We lose credibility. If our circumstances were not so dire I could chalk it up to political ops, but in this time, at this critical stage in our history, THIS. WAS. BULL.

a TRUE stand-out LEADER. RUSHBO is filling the void.

It doesn't matter that we suggested that Rush is "the leader" of the GOP because, today, it's DAMN TRUE! :-)

:shrug:

hide behind the milquetoast Steele instead of exposing their true right wing agenda. That's worked so well for us in the past.

This Is brillent.Having Comedian Rush as the face of the Republican party IS so great.The fact Republicans won't stand up to him and go running to apolage to him Is so great.Let the Republican talking heads cry about how bad this Is.Obama Vs Rush Is great for us.
We have a president elected with 53 percent of the vote(Bigger than Bush Jr,Clinton,and Carter and even Reagan 80 Popular vote) which Is the same level of the popular vote Poppy Bush got In 1988,and the biggest Democrat victor since LBJ,and with a 60 plus
approvol rating(depends on who you listen to) and consider this means some who voted for Mccain like what Obama Is doing.This may mean some who bought Into Obama as muslim,soliast,and paling around with terrorists have seen things different now.

Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy put Emanuel where he is today, not DLC methods.

Rahm Emanuel represents the realization of the old adage: "Know what to kiss- and when."


Fuck Rahm Emanuel. Fuck the DLC.

like Wile E. Coyote (off the cliff). BEEP! BEEP! :thumbsup:

Axlerod and Obama were doing it long before Dean ran for President. They would have won just fine without Dean.

It all seemed kinda familiar. It's going fairly well though. If you accept that the media is only going to do shallow sports-style coverage of politics then it's best if you're controlling what the stories are about.

It's the press and Limbaugh that look like overdramatic fools.

approves. Which is more palatable?

that the White House staff has time to work out these machinations?

Do you? Seriously?

The Republicans are in a natural progression - they are reaping what they've sown, and they don't like it one bit.

It's a whole new era, but they can't seem to conceptualize that - hence, their running back to Newt Gingrich.

It's all just very, very funny. I expect the West Wing is having a very good laugh at this one.

And have yet to hear them deny it. When I saw Emanuel talking about it on Face the Nation I could tell by his stupid smirk that something was not right with my belief that the WH was reacting to Limbaugh.

prove that it's true. Let's hear it for triangulation, the basic tenet of all journalism.

No, they don't have to deny a thing. The one making the assertion has to prove the truth of the statement. That's just a basic fact. Democrats have been on the defensive long enough, and they've learned, thanks to the example of President Obama, not to assume that posture when, in fact, the responsibility for proving the truth lies with the person reporting it.

You can "tell by his stupid smirk" what he had done and what he was thinking?

Cool. That's not too nuts.

So, again, tell me how Emanuel is a "neoncon". Your assertion, after all.

Enlighten me, or are you just divining that by TV images? Because, if you are, there's a treatment for that.

You clearly learned how to make assertions without any backup during the last eight years.

Fail.

who only parrot the incoherent lies and smears of a drug-addled radio host.

Obama is about getting things accomplished to fix this country.

And his administration is slowly exposing that all REpublicans want to do is smear, lie and obstruct.

It's the eradiction of drama, not the instigation of it.

It's brilliant!

n/t

during Clinton's administration and Clinton told him to back off.

Look what happened after that.

The GOP whiners must cow to the altar of Pigboy. It is high time they are called out along with their master.

It is a win-win to have this exposed out in the open so that low info voters can see the vile, disgusting smears coming out of these gasbags. Because that's all they have. ZERO ideas.

Please let it stop! :eyes:

the less they have to spare for obstructing the president.

/oops

you are dealing with VERY short-term conclusions...

to quote Walter Brennan, one of the greatest character actors, in 'To Have and Have Not'...in a conversation with Humphrey Bogart:

Eddie (WB): Was you ever bit by a dead bee?

the stinger never 'dies', even with the death of the bee, until the stinger gets 'used'...

They still think they are dealing with Bill Clinton.They think 2010 will be 1994 If they just say no to everything our President
Is trying to do.They threw everything they had at Obama In 2008 and he still whipped soreloser Mccain.Where was all the outrage
over earmarks when Republicans were In Charge.His buddy Kyl Is deep Into earmarks.

After Franken Is seated and Reid and Dodd can hold on all we have to do Is have 1 pickup and we have total control of the senate.
Of course we could pick more than 1.Keep your eye on 538,and they will keep you updated on senate rankings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zMw1y5M2xE :kick:

Your irrational hatred of Emanuel has blinded you to that. We're winning this one.

The GOP's completely discombobulated, we've just given them a little push through the door, and they inflicted upon themselves the worst possible faceman that they could possibly get.

And the funny thing is that the GOP's so schizophrenic right now that they're eating it right up!

Yeah, people like Carville, Begala and Emanuel are bastards, but they're OUR bastards!

I LOVE this whole thing, it's ripped the sheet right off the rePUKE party. :woohoo:

Take a bow.

This whole "conspiracy" nonsense is just that - nonsense.

Give the Republicans credit - they really are this goofy.

when you believe politico.

This is a long time coming. :hi:

for the GOPigs, don't you?

Did you ever think we'd see days like this?

I'm loving, loving, loving it ...........

:toast:

:puke:

Interesting that some of you guys are attacking people who just made fools out of 3 of our biggest threats in the GOP.

c'mon.

I have no problem with him in his role as COS. Aren't you at least happy he is out of the House? Begala is okay too I just can't stand Carville, the man is a nut. Plus Politico sucks.