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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:21 AM
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Stranger Shows Up at Funeral, Hits Dead Man
Laurens County (The Greenville News) - Tammy Fausel said that she and her family were shocked at what happened during her uncle's funeral in Gray Court.

A Candler, N.C., woman danced in front of the service, waved a wand around the casket, opened the lid, laid her hands on the deceased's head and struck the body with a wand, according to an incident report from the Laurens County Sheriff's Office.

Nicole Marie Loretta Leonard, 25, has been charged with disturbing a funeral and public disorderly conduct in Tuesday's incident, according to tickets.

Fausel said she had never before seen the woman and had no idea why she would've been at funeral at Church of God on State 14.

"Everybody was just kind of flabbergasted," she said. "They didn't know what was going on."

The woman took flowers from the top of the casket and threw them at the family before leaving in a burgundy Toyota, according to the report.
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When deputies asked the woman why she acted the way she did, the woman said "she felt that it was the right thing to do at the time," according to the report. The woman told deputies she knew no one at the church, according to the report.
http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=71172&catid=2

Okaaaaaaaaaaay! My state is getting weirder by the minute.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:25 AM
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1. Weird
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:25 AM
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2. CRAZY...
:crazy:
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:10 PM
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23. no stranger than putting a three piece suit on a dead guy, IMO
There has to be an element of denial to trussing up the deceased like Weekend at Bernie's for one last hurrah, and tapping a corpse with a wand shouldn't really evoke that much consternation among people praying to an unseen deity for a luxurious afterlife, so the story is really the sheriff getting involved not the act itself, which would probably go unremarked upon in most of California ("oh, that was Galadriel.") unless trespassing is news.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:15 PM
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25. No backs on those suits and dresses
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 12:16 PM by LeftHander
The dead go through eternity with a backless suit and no pants....
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:19 PM
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28. I think the strange part is that she had no connection to the deceased
It would be just as weird if someone crashed a 'flower-throwing-and-wand-waving' funeral in her family and dressed the corpse in a suit...
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:34 PM
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36. are funeral crashers that uncommon?
Maybe I watched "Harold and Maude" at an impressionable age but it doesn't strike me as that odd to take solace or even secondhand despair in the tribulations of others.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:53 PM
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41. I suspect it's pretty unusual, especially for a crasher to get involved in
or even alter the proceedings.

Sitting quietly in the back (for whatever reason) wouldn't strike me as particularly strange or disruptive...
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:20 PM
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29. I thought it was a show of respect rather than an illustration of denial...
I thought suiting up the recently deceased was a show of respect rather than an illustration of denial... unless of course one believes that sucker-punching a corpse is also an illustration of denial. Six of one, half a dozen of the other, right?
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:47 PM
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40. there's some leeway between "struck with a wand" and "sucker-punched"
I don't necessarily approve of itinerant priests or whatever, much less vandalizing the dead, but it seems like the "story" in a journalistic sense isn't about a boring police blotter item, (wo)man crashes event and breaks taboo with mysterious scepter, the controversy producing "dog bites man" angle is the spiritual leaning of the vandal/performance artist/uninvited mourner and the contrast with the community's expectations, and possibly the involvement of an attractive white woman given the media's history of saturation coverage thereof.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:04 PM
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44. My overall curiosity remains...
My overall curiosity remains (regardless of sucker-punch v. struck with wand, although both seem apt descriptors in this case)... I was under the impression that suiting up a corpse was a show of respect rather than a sign of denial. On what premise does one base the idea that it is indeed merely a form of denial?
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:17 PM
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46. doesn't "sucker punch" connote an element of surprise to the victim?
I think "respect" and "denial" aren't mutually exclusive, especially where mortality is concerned; I don't perceive the suiting up as disrespectful since it's culturally normative (as would be a funeral pyre in other parts of the world), but this particular Western tradition, broadly speaking, doesn't strike me as a rite that signifies wholehearted acceptance of the deceased's new status, again IMO.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:42 PM
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52. Respect and denial may not be necessarily exclusive...
Ok. Respect and denial may not be necessarily exclusive. However I'm still wondering why one would think that suiting up a corpse is a form of denial-- unless the corollary is also true, i.e., burying a corpse naked is a form of acceptance.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 02:18 PM
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57. Isn't all corpse-punching really sucker-punching?
I mean, the corpse is not expecting it. We probably need not delve into other values of "sucker," for dignity's sake.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 06:14 PM
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73. Don't knock it if you;ve never tried it...
Edited on Fri Mar-06-09 06:14 PM by LanternWaste
Don't knock it if you've never tried it... :evilgrin:




Texas-- Cow tipping, Pie Chucking, and Corpse Punching... we've got it all! :)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:26 AM
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3. So some woman comes in danced in front of the coffin, waving a wand, opened the casket
and laid her hands on the body and then used her wand to strike him and then took flowers and threw at the family and nobody stopped her? She got in her car and left.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:28 AM
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6. WTF?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:43 AM
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14. Its a modern version of awakening the dead....
:shrug:
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:49 AM
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15. You've gotta be pretty whacked out
to do something like that, or have a serious grudge against some one in the family and figured this was your last chance to get back at them!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:28 PM
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49. or in other words --->"beating a dead corpse?"
:yoiks: :silly:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:01 PM
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17. the pure extreme shock of what they were seeing
could have easily paralyzed them for a few mins while she did her thing and escaped...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:18 PM
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27. You never know if someone in the grieving family ordered it without telling everyone else about it
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 12:18 PM by KittyWampus
Maybe it was a Wicca-Gram.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:25 PM
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48. I buried my beloved father two years ago.
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 01:30 PM by ShortnFiery
Don't mean to swagger, but I'd like to BELIEVE that if some strange woman would have hit/struck my father's body, I would have "laid her out" right beside him. :shrug:

Perhaps everyone was "in shock?"

Who knows for sure?

For some reason I feel like quoting Mr. Hand from the flick "Fast Times at Ridgemont High."

ARE YOU ON DOPE?!?

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:27 AM
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4. Maybe the Floridians are moving north!
:hide:

I kid...I kid .......
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:29 AM
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8. LOL! I thought about that. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:28 AM
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5. magic!. . n/t
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 11:29 AM by annabanana
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:28 AM
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7. Well she made the funeral memorable
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:32 AM
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9. Obviously a squib
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:27 PM
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33. LOL
:)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:33 AM
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10. Maybe the deceased left instructions with the funeral home to hire her to do this?
I know my family will find it amusing when the guy with the trained seal shows up.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:05 PM
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18. I want a vulture.
He can simply walk by -- in one door and out the other -- like the bird show at the wild animal park.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:07 PM
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20. remote possibility
but then i don't think the family would have been mad about it....
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:34 AM
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11. Bippity-boppity-boo!
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skeewee08 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:38 AM
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12. Dame Republicrats:-)
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:43 AM
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13. I'm trying to imagine that same scene...
.. at the last funeral I went to which was 60% military/police. I don't think she would have made it out of there.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:51 AM
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16. After the last 8 years I will never
again say "this sort of thing can never happen."
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:07 PM
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19. Wait...what? Does this woman always carry a wand?Where did THAT come from?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:21 PM
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30. She should have said someone in the family ordered a Wicca-gram or Voodoo-Gram
Sort of like a Singing Telegram or Candy-gram.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:08 PM
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21. stories like this is why The Onion and News of the Weird have lost their bite
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:10 PM
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22. I can't get the Bewitched theme out of my head now n/t
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:10 PM
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24. Different religions have different traditions... we should respect the traditions of others.
:hide:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:17 PM
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26. As of yet,
I haven't heard about this as a tradition. I talked to a friend who lives in the area, and she hasn't heard of such. However, with any particular family, who knows.
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tanngrisnir3 Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:32 PM
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35. Uh...yeah.... apparently it wasn't her funeral to attend, seeing as....
no one there recognized her.
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:54 PM
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42. What a guy can't die without a secret woman or two in his past?...
Honestly I would love this to happen at my funeral....

Most funerals I have attended have been depressing affairs with an air of sameness about them...

Nothing livens up the afterlife like a strange crazy chick.
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tanngrisnir3 Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:19 PM
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47. With a woman like that in my past, I'd want to die.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:22 PM
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31. but what was she wearing?
jk

what a crazy story.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:22 PM
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32. I flipped a dead guy off
and said "Glad you are dead and hope you are burning in hell." and then spit on him.
I was gonna piss on his body when others dragged me out of the funeral home.

The guy was a major league asshole and a cowardly bully(he was only a bully when his friends were there to back him up.) that also killed three good friends in the wreck he caused.

His brother thought what I did was funny and that his brother deserved it.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:35 PM
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37. and spit on him?
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:02 PM
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43. Yep
Like I said-The guy was a major asshole.BushRush level assholishness.

Only a handful of people showed up at his funeral.The three friends he killed had hundreds attend.

Not a single person said anything negative to me over what I did.Most people laughed.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:32 PM
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50. Er, good luck with your audience at The Pearly Gates with Saint Peter.
Tempting fate? :shrug:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:31 PM
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34. Maybe she thought it was Fred Phelps.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:36 PM
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38. Berate him until he leaves town. He's as civilized as a worm.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 12:45 PM
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39. Comments on this news are LOL:
That is one mad cow in need of a Prozac salt lick.

Cue Patsy Cline.........

i wanted to say how proud i am, of the women who have made the top headlines today!! way to go girls...women's history month is off with a bang!! btw...hi MOM!! haven't seen you in a while!! ;)

MENTAL EVALUATION???? HOW ABOUT, ASSAULT WITH INTENT TO KILL AGAIN! !

Maybe she was his dominatrix and wanted to take one last whack at him.

"Nicole Marie Loretta Leonard, 25, has been charged with disturbing a funeral...."
Wait, stop the presses. I just thought about this as James Gregory would. Since the "Disturbing a Funeral" charge was already on the books, that means that at least once, sometime in the past, some nut said to his buddies "Hold my beer, watch this"......

If you see this girl....Run! Do Not lie down and play dead...that only excited her!

excuse me...we have enough nut cases here in south carolina, so if you don't mind, be crazy in your own state!!! we don't dance around coffins and wave car antennas at funerals around here... our troopers wear dresses & drive drunk...if you want even crazier, you may want to try the state of florida...the creme de la creme of crazy states!!

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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:13 PM
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45. I was at a funeral once where
two women spat on the corpse. the Widow was enraged until Both women explained they were the deceased' Victims. he had scammed them both.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:38 PM
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51. i wondered what happened to my wand. nt
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:51 PM
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53. That reminds me of the movie, "To Catch a Theif"
where James Coburn stuck a pin into a dead guy in the coffin as his horrified wife, played by the beautiful, Audry Hepburn, looks on.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 03:55 PM
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59. That was "Charade"
"To Catch a Thief" is Cary Grant and Grace Kelly.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:00 PM
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61. Thanks. In my bones I felt I was wrong.
Both are very good movies.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:20 PM
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62. Sure are
I saw "Charade" for the first time when I was pretty young so it's always stuck in my head.

That fight scene on top of the roof with the guy with the hook hand (George Kennedy?) is kind of terrifying.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:57 PM
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68. Oh yes.
I was pretty young too. I thought the stamps were a neat way to hide the money.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:55 PM
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54. Maybe she was uncle's best kept secret -
A daughter the family knew nothing about. You never know.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:55 PM
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55. I hope something crazy like that happens at NY funeral.
My family probably wouldn't even be surprised...
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Eryemil Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 02:14 PM
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56. That's hilarious.
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 02:17 PM by Eryemil
:evilgrin:

Not that I would care, since I wouldn't exist anymore and all but I'm being cremated. So anyone with some grievances to air might want to punch me NOW.
However, pissing in the ashes of my corpse is a valid and meaningful alternative. Also, my jaw/nose thanks you.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 03:45 PM
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58. Bellatrix Lestrange lives in North Carolina?
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 03:57 PM
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60. Maybe she's the After Life Fairy. nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:24 PM
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63. I wonder how many cats she had.
I love cats.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:48 PM
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64. I do believe that the deceased knew
the washer wielder. She was a massage therapist. To wake up one morning, read about a funeral, and then to attend even though you don't know the person is weird enough. To find Gray Court, SC and travel there from NC would mean some serious hunting. Then add to that the other things she did. I have no doubt she was tripping, but that would be some seriously weird stuff.
I know it could happen. I want to know the rest of the story.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 05:04 PM
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65. If she'd been wearing her collar backwards, it'd have just been another funeral service
Sounds like High Church to me, with fewer smells and bells.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 06:22 PM
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74. As a professional clergy person, I can assure you...
I don't show up and do liturgy at funerals where I wasn't booked by the family. Walking into someone else's church and doing a funeral uninvited is just bad form.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 05:12 PM
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66. that so fricking crazy....
I have tears in my eyes from imaging the incidence... tears of laughter.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 05:32 PM
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67. A fun link:
Link to police report: http://www.wltx.com/docs/Nicole_Marie_Leonard.pdf

Note to self: disturbing a funeral in SC is a specific violation with a code
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:01 PM
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69. I knew there was a scene missing from last week's "Lost"
NOW I get it!
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:05 PM
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70. Holy wow
:crazy:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 07:48 PM
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71. Be vewy vewy careful at funerals...
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 05:12 PM
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72. I've never been to one
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