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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:32 PM
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If the Bush administration is not brought to justice it will set a precedent for future
administrations. And sooner or later we will have another gang of thugs in there, (I pray it is much later but we have to be realistic) and if there is no justice for Bush's crimes then they will feel free to do the same...or worse

When people say we should "look forward" yes LOOK FORWARD and set the precedent that their type of crimes are not ever let to happen again. Otherwise I am afraid what is going to happen years from now when our children are adults in this country.

Remember how they got into the White House the first time. Election fraud. And people rallied around determined that it not happen again and in this last election it didn't. Some people were thrown in jail for their part in the fraud and that is a good thing because it probably caused others who may have had the inclination to do the same thing......to step down instead.

So LOOK FORWARD President Obama and protect us against these horrible abuses when you are no longer president.



"Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it."

George Santayana
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:37 PM
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1. Your right, and Johnathon Turley has made this point on KO a number of times...
If President Obama stands in the way of any crimes that might be uncovered against the Bush Administration, then he owns them as well.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:38 PM
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2. That is a great way of saying it.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:39 PM
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3. I don't see any way that Obama can possibly not prosecute if evidence of crimes
is uncovered. He will be complicit in those crimes if he choses not to, regardless of the reason.

If no one is above the law, then their crimes simply cannot be ignored, nor can they go unpunished. Period.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:40 PM
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4. Here's the precedent:
No American administration has ever, ever prosecuted a previous administration. Ever. And Bush is hardly the first to abuse power. There's your precedent.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:49 PM
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5. And that's the problem
going back to FDR's administration it's been the same gang of thugs and/or their descendents that get by with criminal activity because it's for "the good of the country" not to prosecute them and each time they get by with it they come back worse than ever.

If Obama does not allow them to be prosecuted any ground we regain during his administration will be loss the next time these crooks get their hands on power.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:38 PM
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8. Does Obama know this? From what he has said he seems pretty reticent
about the whole idea of looking for past abuses. I think I remember him saying he wanted to "look forward".

Either way I think this is a seriously important issue that needs more exposure.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:40 PM
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10. Exactly. Nixon's pardon enabled Reagan abuses. Reagan
abuses enabled Bushco. It has to stop.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:51 PM
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6. Well it is time to change that precedent because this new one is very dangerous.
And I can't think of another administration perpetrated crimes to the level the Bush administration did. He broke all the records time and again over.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 04:51 PM
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7. Dupe
Edited on Thu Mar-05-09 04:52 PM by Maraya1969
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tangent90 Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:40 PM
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9. Crap, the 'precedent' was set years ago with North, Kissinger, Raygun...that gang.
:grr:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:18 PM
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11. Long before that
I'd trace to when Prescott Bush and his pals only got slaps on the wrist for trading with the Nazis. And ol' Prescott turns around and gets himself elected to the Senate. The Connecticut Republicans annual dinner is named for Grandpa Bush. You have wonder about a political party that would name one of its big events after a traitor.

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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:27 PM
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12. Absolutely correct - I wonder just how many innocent people...
have been collectively murdered by this filthy family so they could enrich themselves?
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:23 PM
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16. Awwww. Doesn't all this just make you want to rush over to the pious thread
about Barbara Bush's health and say a prayer for her and her kin?:puke:
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That Is Quite Enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:35 PM
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18. Not to mention Prescott was believed to be involved with the Business Plot against FDR.
The Bush family really hates this country, don't they?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 07:54 AM
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21. yes and Kissinger was just sent to Russia by Obama to represent
his administration, and our country..doesn't that give everyone warm fuzzies!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 09:35 PM
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13. Agreed
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 10:02 PM
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14. Can we get two more votes? I'm kicking but I can't vote.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:17 PM
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15. K&R number 5 here!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:33 PM
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17. If they're not brought to justice, it will reflect our history. Of course there will be others.
Because no one is allowed to ask the questions, let alone initiate action against the
deaths caused in military actions initiated by presidents.

http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html#anchor1469361

http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/Interventions.ppt
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 11:37 PM
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19. But I wanted to pretend my forgiveness powers made me a superior human
because I'm so full of love n'shit. It's all about me me me!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 12:33 AM
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20. Well, consider the precedent set.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 01:33 PM
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22. exactly!! . . . not only that, it will also say to other nations that, . . .
contrary to what we claim, the U.S. is NOT "a nation of laws, and not of men," but precisely the opposite . . . how can we pretend to set an example for the rule of law elsewhere when we can't/won't even make it work here? . . .

distasteful as it may be to some, the prosecution of a former U.S. president and his cronies is not an option -- it is essential if we are to be who we claim to be as a nation . . .
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