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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:24 AM
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Bush talks about converting switchgrass and wood chips into ethanol again
http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/27-03-2007/88666-bush_ethanol-0

The attorney general is struggling to keep his job in a standoff with Congress over the purging of U.S. prosecutors. The war spending bill is bogged down over whether troops should stay in Iraq, another bit of brinksmanship with lawmakers.

And President George W. Bush is again talking, for two days in a row, about converting switchgrass and wood chips into ethanol.

The president's public schedule has Bush operating in two different worlds of news: the one threatening his administration, and the one he is determined to promote whether anyone is listening or not.

So while Congress challenges Bush on the firings of U.S. attorneys, the president is sticking to energy.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:28 AM
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1. He just wants to get ripped. n/t
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 01:32 AM
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2. He needs to STFU.
and go pound sand.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 03:44 AM
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3. He gives dolts a bad name. n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:42 AM
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4. apparently it's a safe subject
talking about energy alternatives is a safe topic...at the moment

the dark clouds over the white house and his mis-administration collapsing around him has not penetrated his protective bubble...

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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:57 AM
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6. Nero fiddling while Rome burns

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:18 AM
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8. you can hear him plucking out a tune on the fiddle
"I ain't got no trouble...
I'm safe in my big ole bubble...."
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:54 AM
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5. The problem with switch grass is that
it provides cover for wild life. Birds nest in it for one. And if it is "harvested" in the Fall,there is no cover till the new growth the following spring.

That might be tied to bu$h wanting to scale back and eliminate the Endangered Species Act. The list would get too long to keep track of.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 08:19 AM
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7. Harvesting in very late fall wouldn't be that bad
Depending on the location of course, but if it were in northern states in late fall, you'd miss most of the migratory sparrows that are grassland specialists and wouldn't have to worry about nesting birds.

Of course, since we're talking switchgrass for fuel production, then you have to assume the powers that be are wanting multiple harvests a year if possible, so yes, there likely would be a negative impact.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 06:40 PM
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10. Yes it would because nesting would take place before the grass
had a chance to grow much. Kind of hard on the survival rate.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:32 AM
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11. ah, I see your point - although it all depends on how fast
switch grass grows. Planted early enough in the season, it could get high enough to support nesting by June. In any matter, there are significant questions about the energy in, energy out ratio of the plant - some scientists say that up to 4 times as much energy is required to grow, harvest and process switchgrass for fuel as you get out of it in return - others say the opposite. It needs more study. Since it's a perennial, it would at least help in erosion control since no form of annual tilling would be required.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 10:20 AM
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9. When Pravda is noticing this you just know we are in trouble n/t
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