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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:03 PM
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Report: Slain US Nazi hated Obama, had parts for 'dirty bomb'
Source: Raw Story

Trust fund millionaire James G. Cummings, an American Nazi sympathizer from Maine who was slain by his wife Amber in December, allegedly had the radioactive components necessary to construct a "dirty bomb," a newly released threat analysis report states.

The man, allegedly furious over the election of President Obama, purchased depleted uranium over the Internet from an American company.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Slain_white_supremacist_had_components_for_0309.html



Full story at the link...

-Diane
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:07 PM
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1. And people bitch because you can buy Oxycotin online?
:wtf:
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:17 PM
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5. I need confirmation from my veterinarian...
...to buy online, low allergen prescription food for my cat.

The sites I've been to require the vet's name and phone number, plus my cat's name, to fulfill an order.

Again, that is for CAT FOOD.

Perhaps the requirement would be waived if it was low allergen radioactive cat food?
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:55 PM
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18. Your cats name??? For some reason that cracks me up. nt
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:57 PM
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19. Yeah...
..."Chibi."
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Lost in CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:59 PM
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20. So if another cat is caught holding the food cops can make an arrest? nt
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 08:59 PM by Lost in CT
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:09 PM
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27. Yes, or if he "shares" it...
...with the other cats in the hood..."da foist one's free, Puffball."
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:41 AM
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57. That's probably because the food's distributed only to vets.
I cook for my animals. I think they're much healthier for it.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:07 PM
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2. purchased depleted uranium over the Internet
Oh sure, try to buy needed medicine and you get in trouble.

But you can buy depleted uranium?!

This world is mad.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:10 PM
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3. I am not a nuclear physicist but I don't think you can make a
dirty bomb from depleted uranium.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:18 PM
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6. Correct
Actually it's possible to buy high-radioactivity uranium ore online, of which it would take a substantial amount to pose a threat

http://www.unitednuclear.com/uranium.htm

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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:15 AM
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40. I love United Nuclear.
Meteorites, Tesla Coils, Uranium...it's a site for those of us who actually grokk "that geeky science stuff".

I own a set of neodymium magnets from UN that are capable of crushing fingers, some tritium lights, and a lump of low level ore that I use as a paperweight. I used to have a depleted fuel rod that I also used as a paperweight, but some tard stole it off my desk at work years ago. United Nuclear doesn't sell those anymore :(
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:56 AM
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55. If you haven't read the Wiki article on UN founder Bob Lazar
it's an eye-opener. I had no idea. :wow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:33 PM
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60. Oh yeah, the guy is a nut...but the good kind. Heard him on Art Bell years ago.
He's a mostly-harmless kook, who makes a living selling mostly-harmless materials to amateur scientists, experimenters, and collectors.

But yeah, his beliefs on alien visitations are WAAAY out there.
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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:23 PM
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8. Re dirty bomb
From wikipedia:

"The term dirty bomb is primarily used to refer to a radiological dispersal device (RDD), a speculative radiological weapon which combines radioactive material with conventional explosives. Though an RDD would be designed to disperse radioactive material over a large area, a bomb that uses conventional explosives would likely have more immediate lethal effect than the radioactive material. At levels created from most probable sources, not enough radiation would be present to cause severe illness or death. A test explosion and subsequent calculations done by the United States Department of Energy found that assuming nothing is done to clean up the affected area and everyone stays in the affected area for one year, the radiation exposure would be "fairly high", but not fatal.<1> Recent analysis of the Chernobyl disaster fallout confirms this, showing that the effect on many people in the surrounding area, although not those in close proximity, was almost negligible.<2>

Because a terrorist dirty bomb is unlikely to cause many deaths, many do not consider this to be a weapon of mass destruction.<3> Its purpose would presumably be to create psychological, not physical, harm through ignorance, mass panic, and terror. For this reason dirty bombs are sometimes called "weapons of mass disruption". Additionally, containment and decontamination of thousands of panic-stricken victims, as well as decontamination of the affected area might require considerable time and expense, rendering affected areas partly unusable and causing economic damage.

No dirty bomb has ever been used, though unexploded devices have been found."


I'm not certain exactly what variety of 'dirty bomb' was the goal here, but even one with a goal of psychological harm would have been...well, I just shudder at the thought of the inauguration having been a possible target for such a horror.

-Diane
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:44 PM
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13. Yeah, thyroid cancer is negligeble, untill you get it at age 19
Wikipedia is great, but it is only the first stop of many if you are to get the big picture. Try Youtube and searching on Chernobyl, cancer, "Three Mile Island", Karen Silkwood, "Experimental Animals" and any number of other sources. Putting together the connections is a job for analysts and people that see the world as a system, not as a collection of individul parts. Unfortunately, they educational system wants specialist that can't put things together, as it keeps them from seeing how interrelated all life on Earth is.

You inhale one particle of DU and your screwed for life. It may not be immediate, but I can gurantee you that a happy life it will not be, simply beacuse the human body cannot deal with the ongoing destruction of billions of otherwise healthy cells daily, on top of the other bacterial, nutritional and mental stresses we face on a day to day basis.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:26 AM
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42. DU is NOT dangerous other than CHEMICALLY.
or as a kinetic momentum transfer material because of its high density.

Radioactively speaking it is negigible.

:crazy:

Douglas J. De Clue
Bachelor of Aerospace Engineering
Georgia Tech
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:27 PM
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9. The bomb would be packaged with the depleted uranium
which is still pretty radio active. Depleted just means that its not pure enough to use as fuel for a reactor, it has a host of other radio active elements.
I saw a program on Discovery or Science today. A Dr of Physics was saying that if we could figure out how to use the remaining various elements for fuel it would eventually be inert, as is it's hazardous.
If a normal bomb were used as the explosive it would in effect spread the radio active stuff around as fine dust. Breathing it would be A Bad Thing. Think of it as shrapnel in a regular mine or set bomb.
It would not contribute to the explosion as a nuke bomb would its not enough power to ignite a fission and definitely not a fusion process, there is not enough power to slam the atoms together with enough force to cause fission.

What is upseting is that we are using DU as armour on our hummers, tanks and in ammunitions and spreading it all over Iraq as well as slowly poisoning our own troops thereby.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:55 PM
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17. DU actually does burn, and creates very fine particles.
Most commonly it is known as "Reactive Armor" because the explosions cause the material to be destroyed in the impact with the DU, or something like that.

As it burns, the particles spread out and drift, settling on nearby surfaces, or being breathed in by someone in the vicinity.

For and indication of how crazy the policy on DU is, look at the safety issues for Instrument gauges in Military vehicles. These gauges contain radium paint so they are visible in the dark via luminescence. The Army has stern warning regarding Gause that are broken, and if they are, prohibit anyone from entering the vehicle until radiological personnell have decontaminated the cockpit.

DU is no less safe than a sealed gauge. While the munitions remain inert because they are encased, after they are fired, they decompose through impact to contaminate wide areas with radioactive dust. Just think, that Army Surplus tank is now radioactive. Melt it down and the metal is radioactive. The farmers ploughs the soil and disturbs radioactive dust. A soldier inspects a burnt out tank that was destroyed with DU munitions.

DU would make a fine dirty bomb. Ask the maimed, mutated and deformed Iraqi children.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:31 AM
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43. DU would NOT make a good "dirty bomb"... radium (used in the dials) is far more radioactive!
HALF LIFE is what matters folks...


The LONGER the half life the LESS the radiation rate.

Radium has a very very short half life especially when compared to Uranium.

And as for "dirty bombs" the radioactive impact of such a weapon would be negligible compared to the chemical explosive impact.

Consider that Chernobyl only killed about 50 people from radiation poisioning and a lot of those were plant workers and emergency workers sealing the reactor breach.

It is a psychological weapon and your ignorance of the science involved is the only reason that it CAN be a psychological weapon.

I would be far more concerned about REAL nuclear weapons such as Pakistan, China, Russia, and India possess and which North Korea MAY possess.

Doug D.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:45 AM
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58. doug - please point us to some figures about the
radioactivity or non-radioactivity of depleted uranium, so that you can back up your statements and help out us ignorants.

Otherwise you're just as believable (less even, because I've heard his story longer) than the other guy.

Your effort would be greatly appreciated.


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davepdx Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:42 PM
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59. A couple of nits...
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 02:43 PM by davepdx
"The LONGER the half life the LESS the radiation rate."

Doug, I'm not certain what you are meaning by "radiation rate" but if you mean the amount of radioactivity present then this statement is misleading. You've made a generalization that won't hold up. The quantity of an isotope present is measured by the number of radioactive disintegrations that occur per unit time (usually measured per second). The unit measurement of the amount of radioactivity present in a sample is measured in either Curies or the SI unit Becquerels. A Curie is 3.7 x 10 to the tenth power disintegrations per second.

Say you have equal amounts of radioactivity of 3 isotopes (99m-Tc, 226-Radium and 238-Uranium). A one milliCurie (one thousandth of a Curie or 3.7 x 10 to the seventh power) quantity of each at 8 AM on Monday morning would mean that each has the same number of atomic disintegrations occurring per second at 8 AM. My apologies for not using SI units (old habit die hard, I'm a retired nuclear medicine technologist). ;-) After that time (8 AM on Monday morning) the number of radioactive disintegrations per second for each of the three isotopes start to drop at different rates dependent on each isotope's half-life. The half-life for 99m-Tc is 6.01 hours, 226-Radium is 1602 years, and 238-Uranium is 4.46 billion years. The mathematical rule of half-lives is that if you allow an isotope to decay for 7 half-lives then the residual activity left over after 7 half-lives would be less than one percent of what you started with. The progression for 7 half-lives is 1 -> 0.5 -> 0.25 -> 0.125 -> 0.0625 -> 0.03125 -> 0.15625 -> 0.0078125. Two days later on Wednesday at 8 AM (8 half-lives later for 99m-Tc) the amount of radioactivity present would be less than 0.005 milliCuries of 99m-Technetium (the amount of radioactivity present for 99m-Tc would have dropped by a factor of well over 200). In the cases of 226-Radium and 238-Uranium there would be no measurable change and both still would contain 1 milliCurie each isotope and would be decaying at the same rate as on Monday at 8 AM. You would barely be able to detect the 99m-Tc but the change in the amount of radioactivity present with the 226-Radium and 238-Uranium would not be measurable. Waiting for seven half-lives for either 226-Radium or 238-Uranium would be quite a wait.

An extreme example would be comparing 1 Curie (1,000,000 microCuries) of 99m-Tc to 1 milliCurie (1000 microCuries) of 226-Radium and 1 milliCurie of 238-Uranium at 8 AM Monday. The short half-life 99mTc would start with a quantity of radioactive material that is 1000 times greater in amount than either the long lived 226-Radium or 238-Uranium. The following Monday at 8 AM (28 half-lives later for 99m-Tc) you would not be able to measure the 99m-Tc with a geiger-mueller tube because the amount of radioactivity present would be less than normal room background radioactivity (0.0038 microCuries). The quantity of radioactivity present in both 226-Radium and 238-Uranium samples would essentially be unchanged.

My 3 isotope example could be interpreted to mean that the LONGER the half-life, the GREATER the radiation rate.

"Radium has a very very short half life especially when compared to Uranium."

Though this statement is accurate because of the generality I think that it might be unintentionally misleading in the context of an area contaminated by a dirty bomb. The radioactive decay that would occur over the course of a human lifetime for 226-Radium (half-life: 1602 years) would be insignificant as would also be the case for 238-Uranium (half-life of 4.46 billion years). At the end of an 80 years there would still be 96.6 percent of the original amount of 226-Radium radioactivity still present.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 04:04 AM
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50. I was speaking ove a fission or fusion reaction explosion, anything will burn
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 04:14 AM by HillbillyBob
given heat enough.
This 'it is DEPLETED' is nonsense , if its heavy metal or its radio active it is still hazardous and I don't want it in my water, air or food.
What other crap is the fed saying won't harm you that they have lied about.
DDT? Agent Orange (or its chemical little brother Roundup also from Monsanto that is sprayed on most commercial food)? lead in gasoline, mercury in vaccinations, I doubt the autism thing other than maybe the shear amount of toxins in our air food and water. We have so many chemicals used around us that it might even be hard to tell which one(s) we are actually poisoned by.
Most house hold cleaners are so nasty they will set off my asthma, which really seems to have been caused from living too close to coal mines, coal burning and the chemicals in the air from the papermill, bleach, most air fresheners have benzenes in them that will too. So I don't think depleted uranium would be a beneficial or even benign ingredient in breathing air.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:31 AM
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44. Here's a video about uranium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8vVZTvJNGk&eurl=http://www.periodicvideos.com/videos/092.htm

I'd say this is a pretty trustworthy source; it's from the "Periodic Table of Videos", from our friends at the University of Nottingham. The YouTube link is their video about uranium.

EVERYONE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ARTICLE SHOULD WATCH THIS VIDEO TO LEARN SOME ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT URANIUM.

Actual scientific knowledge regarding the topic is helpful, and the video provides some of that. Someone wants us to be very, very afraid of this, and the fear "they" need depends on how much you know about the material.
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Mr. Hyde Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 03:02 AM
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49. .......
look what happens to DU when it burns.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:29 AM
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53. Good. Mind if we store some in your garage?
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:15 PM
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4. Depleted Uranium (Not to be confused with DU)
Is somewhat radioactive, but not much. It is depleted of most of its radioactive isotopes.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:47 PM
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16. The main problem is that
it is a heavy metal and if the dust particles are breathed in it does what other heavy metals do, affect the body badly.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:32 AM
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45. Chemically NOT radiologically...
It is a poisonous heavy metal but it's poisonous properties have NOTHING to do with radioactivity.

Doug D.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 02:17 AM
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48. If you inhale heavy metals and radiation into your lungs

The radiation itself could do a hell of a lot of damage, and it won't take much.

However, those substances are heavy, and won't stay in the air very long.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:20 PM
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7. Terra! Terra!! Terra!!!
oh, right, he's rich and white. Hence, not a terraist. :sarcasm: Guess you won't be hearing much of this in the M$M. :eyes:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:31 PM
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10. This is a drop in the bucket because the * administration
refused to investigate white power hate groups. The Timothy McVeigh's were empowered while the * DOJ spied on grannies against the war.

No regulation of anything during the * admin, oh with the exception of womens, gay, minorities, liberal, foreigner regulations and laws.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:03 PM
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22. The Wiki entry on McVeigh is revealing
I was too young and stupid to care about McVeigh, and just followed it superficially. Recently, there was an article on Ammonium Nitrate being stolen on the news, so I researched McVeigh a bit. Was a pretty interesting read, especially when you consider who McVeigh was, what supposedly drove him to do what he did.

Sadly, the past 6 years have had the opportunity to create about a million McVeighs, barring the ones that can't walk without prosthesis. Everyone should be alert for the warning signs, especially when Fat Blowfish like Limbaugh goad them on like some sort of Fascist Mussolini.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:04 AM
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38. Exactly! They pose a threat to all of us and our families.
People only steal Ammonium Nitrate for one reason these days and that is what is scary.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:35 PM
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11. But it 's "Depleted" Uranium!
Believe it or not, one idiot poster tried to make a point that it was harmless because it was "Depleted" Uranium, therefore posed no threat to living organisms. The guy was a schill for the Military, trying to defend the military in face of the discovery of Depleted Uranium on the Big Island of Hawai'i, which was used in the 60's in Marker rounds for the Davy Crockett Tactical Nuclear Rifle. Think of it as a Nuclear Tipped Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher. Nice...

Anyway, this guy and I go back and forth over this, and he calls me the usual Tree-hugger, Hippie. Spouts off that He alone gave me the right to free speech, and that "Freedom Isn't Free" line. It was pretty funny in a pathetic, repug lizard brain sort of way.

His most interesting remark was that I supported the use of Depleted Uranium because if I took a commercial aircraft to Hawai'i, the plane was fitted with Depleted Uranium counterweights. I went to check and lo and behold, he was right! Boeing aircraft use Depleted Uranium to balance the Aircraft! Of course, it is encased in Cadmium so it tends to be inert in the event of a crash, but I found the fact to be quite disturbing. I wonder how many tons of these Depleted Uranium counterweights are sitting in the Air Force Boneyard in Arizona. I wonder when they decided to encase them in Cadmium..

The next time I fly I'm going to ask the ticket agent if the plane contains Depleted Uranium. If it does, I want a discount ticket!

>
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:36 AM
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46. Depleted Uranium is VERY safe...
and people really ought to take a physics course and a chemistry course or two before they just start spouting off their irrational paranoia about subjects they've never studied.

People posting here don't seem to understand the basic relationship between half life and radioactivity rate and don't understand what "depleted" even means.

That Arizona desert sand that those planes are parked on probably puts out more radiation than then DU in the counterweights. Ever put a Geiger counter up next to a piece of concrete? Try it some time. You'll be shocked.


Doug D.
Bachelor of Aerospace Engineering, Georgia Tech
Orlando, FL
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 10:52 AM
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54. "spouting off their irrational paranoia about subjects they've never studied"
That sums up about half the posts in E/E
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Mr. Hyde Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:09 PM
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61. .........
http://www.idust.net/Letters/Moret01.htm

The Honorable Jim McDermott, Congressman

Washington State 7th Congressional District

1809 7th Avenue

Suite 1212

Seattle, WA 98101-1399

(206) 553-7170

(206) 553-7175 FAX



RE: Declassified 1943 memo to General L.R. Groves – a blueprint for depleted uranium



Dear Congressman McDermott,



Mr. Joe Pemberton, a lawyer in Bellingham, Washington, has asked me to provide you with scientific information on the critical and overlooked issues of particle size, penetration of gas masks, and mobility of depleted uranium formed under battleground conditions. It is also powerful scientific information to counter false statements recently made by the White House1 and the DOD2.



I am writing this letter out of concern for the military personnel who may now be serving on or near the Gulf War battlefields in Iraq and may be quartered in areas already contaminated by depleted uranium munitions. But they are not my only concern. The Gulf War Veterans who are now suffering severe health consequences have also been exposed to depleted uranium, chemicals and biological materials including vaccines while serving in Iraq and Kuwait.



The children and people of Iraq have been the greatest victims from exposure to depleted uranium15 used in the Gulf War and will continue to be. Over time, they cannot escape the chronic, low level exposure to internal radiation from depleted uranium and its decay products (see Attach. 7) as it cycles and recycles through their environment3 in water, air and food products.



Depleted uranium dust will continue to be an extreme hazard to soldiers, civilians, populations in countries downwind6,8, and the environment as a radiological contaminant to all living systems for ten half-lives or 45 BILLION years.



I am a former Lawrence Berkeley Lab and Lawrence Livermore Lab scientist, and now work with a group of independent scientists called the Radiation and Public Health Project4. Together this group has written ten books on the health effects of low level radiation. Presently I am writing a science report on depleted uranium for the United Nations Human Rights Subcommission, now investigating the illegality and use of depleted uranium munitions. I have written the Foreword (Attach.1) to Discounted Casualties: The Human Cost of Depleted Uranium by Akira Tashiro5.



Attached (Attach. 2) is a declassified memo to General L. R. Groves, director of the Manhattan Project, dated October 30, 1943. Major Doug Rokke provided me with this memo. It summarizes a report written by Manhattan Project physicists Drs. James B. Conant, A. H. Compton and H.C. Urey on the dissemination of very fine radioactive material as a method of warfare. It is a “blueprint” for depleted uranium as it has been used in Iraq, Kuwait, Kosovo, Bosnia and Afghanistan during the past decade. The memo details the use of very fine and superfine particles of radioactive materials as a military weapon. Depleted uranium, produces very fine and superfine particles in large amounts as it burns. The 1943 memo outlines what was known in 1943 and below are my comments:



- A gas warfare instrument: the memo indirectly referred to fission products from Fermi’s nuclear pile or radioactive waste like depleted uranium. The pyrophoric effect of depleted uranium, which spontaneously burns when heated to 170 C (once it is fired) and on impact, effectively forms very large numbers of extremely fine (0.1 micron) and submicroscopic particles as small as 0.001 micron or 10 Ångstroms (see Attach. 3 - Chart “Characteristics of Particles and Particle Dispersoids”) as described in the memo. Particles in this size range behave like a gas when inhaled, disperse in the lungs to the blood lung barrier where the white blood cells (greater than 7microns in diameter) engulf the tiny particles of depleted uranium and carry them throughout the body. Once these particles have been engulfed by blood cells or lodged in tissues, they may not be detectable in the urine. Contaminated personnel will take the depleted uranium home, deposited in tissues throughout their bodies.



There is no known treatment for exposure.



- It will permeate a gas mask filter: particles in the 0.1 micron range will penetrate even a HEPA filter (High Efficiency Particulate Airfilter – see Attach. 4 - HEPA chart) in large numbers. The filters in gas masks issued to military personnel are much less efficient than HEPA filters. There are 1 billion particles of 0.1 micron diameter in a cubic meter of normal air. It is clear that a man (without a gas mask) breathing at a normal rate (about 28 cubic meters per day6) and retaining 75% of the very fine particulate matter in the respiratory system6 will inhale very large numbers of very fine particles in a short time period.



In a day an average man would normally inhale 28 million particles in the 0.1 micron range through a gas mask with HEPA filters. It would take one billion fine particles to fill the period at the end of this sentence. On the battlefield during live fire, the high concentrations of fine and very fine depleted uranium particles could increase the numbers inhaled in the small particle range by magnitudes.



The gas masks issued to military personnel now deployed to the Gulf Region are defective and do not provide even a minimum of protection to personnel. Recently I went on a speaking tour in 3 northeastern states with Major Doug Rokke, January 25-February 1, 2003. In nearly every talk we gave, a National Guardsman or other military person would tell us that their masks fell off when they tilted their heads.



Air filters in gas masks also fail as they are wetted by moisture from breathing or are used in the rain.



There is no possible protection from exposure to very fine particles of depleted uranium through filtering of air.



- As a terrain contaminant: the dispersal of very fine particles of depleted uranium will contaminate the terrain and deny access to either side except at the risk of exposure. That includes civilians and animals who may live there after the battle. The half-life of depleted uranium – 4.5 billion years – leaves the contaminated terrain radioactive forever.



Small particles less than 1 micron in diameter do not settle from the air (see Attach. 3 – Chart “Characteristics of Particles and Particle Dispersoids”) but become incorporated into atmospheric dust (see Attach. 5 - Chart “Natural Aerosols”) and are transported around the earth until they are removed (“rainout”) by rain, pollution or snow3. Seasonal climate change, agricultural activities, fires and other natural and man-made disturbances will continue to remobilize particles in the upper dust level contaminating terrains off the battlefield.



Weathering of larger particles of depleted uranium deposited on the battlefield7 will contribute to concentrations of depleted uranium fine and superfine particles in the air and upper dust level.



Air monitors in Hungary8 and Greece during bombing in Kosovo and Bosnia measured Uranium 238 carried by the wind from the battlefields. Seasonal fluctuations of depleted uranium particles in the air have been reported in Kuwait6.



- Water and food contamination: the depleted uranium dust will cycle through the environment both on and off the battlefield contaminating water supplies and food. Food grown in contaminated areas will be transported to markets and contaminate populations and areas far from the battlefields. Wind, water, birds9 and animals who transport the depleted uranium in their droppings, slowly contaminate wider and wider areas.



- Internal contamination: inhalation of very fine depleted uranium dust particles is extremely damaging to the respiratory tract and will get into the blood stream where it is carried by blood cells and contaminates tissues throughout the body. These “hot particles”10 will continue to emit alpha and gamma radiation (see Attach. 6 - photo “Hot particle in lung tissue”) as they travel throughout the body or where they rest in tissue. After the Uranium 238 nucleus decays, the radioactive daughter product which forms (see Attach. 7) will continue to decay to other isotopes as many as four times. This will increase the level of radioactive exposure by magnitudes. Depleted uranium particles lodged in tissue will decay and continue emitting higher levels of radioactivity from daughter isotopes into the surrounding tissues.



SYNERGISTIC EFFECTS: The health effects from exposure to a combination of radiation, chemicals, and biological agents was not addressed in this WW II memo. This is a critical issue on the battlefield and should be considered in studies of Gulf War Illness. The combination of radiation with heavy metals, chemicals and biological toxins accelerate and increase the adverse health effects of exposure. The effects are unknown since very little research exists in this field11.



THIS IS AN ISSUE WHICH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN FUTURE CONFLICTS SUCH AS THE PLANNED BOMBING OF IRAQ.



MEASUREMENTS OF DU IN TISSUES FROM 71 DEAD RESIDENTS OF BASRA:

Dr. Hari Sharma, a radiochemist living in Canada and member of the Radiation and Public Health Project, has measured depleted uranium levels in the tissues of 71 residents of Basra who died after the Gulf War from cancers12. They were in the age range of 35-50 years. He found high concentrations of depleted uranium in tissue samples from these individuals. The levels were about the same throughout the tissues, suggesting that very fine particles were transported in the blood and deposited or lodged throughout the body.



WORLD TRADE CENTER AIR STUDIES:

Dr. Thomas Cahill, Emeritus Professor of Physics and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of California at Davis, conducted an independent study of the air around Ground Zero at the World Trade Center after the 9/11 disaster13. Using very sophisticated monitoring instruments14 which detect very fine and ultra fine particles, Cahill and his group monitored the smoldering pile at the WTC for 5 months following the disaster from one mile north of the center. They measured concentrations of particles in six size ranges from 2.5 microns to 0.09 microns13. They reported the highest concentrations of very fine particles of metals ever reported in the US13, and unprecedented numbers of very fine and super fine particles13. This air monitoring study of the WTC provided new information about very fine and superfine particles which have rarely been studied. Burning metals and other materials at high temperatures generate very large amounts of very small particles. For this reason depleted uranium which has burned is particularly hazardous.



The EPA has verified that depleted uranium was in the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 18,19 and that the crash site was contaminated. Residents of New York City detected radiation on hand held geiger counters at the WTC site. The EPA not only failed to protect emergency response personnel at both sites, but did not report or measure13 concentrations of very fine particles at any of the 9/11 plane crash locations. These are the most hazardous to health, and many personnel who worked at the crash sites are now very ill.



Dr. Cahill also studied the Kuwaiti oil field fires following the Gulf War.



ECRR: RELEASED JANUARY 30, 2003

A new report from the European Parliament has been released “2003 Recommendations of the European Committee on Radiation Risk: Health Effects of Ionising Radiation Exposure at Low Doses for Radiation Protection Purposes” Regulators’ Edition: Brussels, 2003 10. The report was written by 46 international scientists and has over 550 references to epidemiological studies which include nuclear site leukemias, Chernobyl infants, minisatellite mutations, weapons fallout cancers, DU Gulf Veterans, and Iraqi children.



The report concludes that the International Committee on Radiation Protection (ICRP) determined international standards for risk and dose effects from studies on A-bomb survivors which were based on high dose, external, acute exposures. The ICRP model only considered cancer as a health risk associated with radiation exposure. The ICRP model, using “bathtub” chemistry, “steam engine” physics, and deceptive reporting, produced faulty and fraudulent estimates of risk and dose effects. Additionally, because the ICRP model is based on acute, high dose, external exposure it cannot accurately determine risks or dose response for internal, chronic, isotopic exposures. For this reason, the ICRP and ECRR models are mutually exclusive.



This new ECRR report based on epidemiological studies, concludes that the health effects of low level radiation exposure have been underestimated by the ICRP model by 100-1000 times. It also includes other health effects due to radiation exposure from global weapons fallout. In addition to cancer it estimates the number of foetal deaths, infant mortality, and predicts “a 10% loss of life quality integrated over all diseases and conditions in those who were exposed over the period of global weapons fallout”.



The committee concluded that underestimates of risk and dose effects for depleted uranium exposure could be very great since the effect at the cell level may be very different than other types of radiation exposures. For this reason the health effects of depleted uranium exposure in Gulf Veterans will be investigated in depth by this committee and will be presented in a new report.



Internal exposure to depleted uranium is a “novel” exposure to an altered form of natural isotopes. The size, shape, surface texture, density, chemical composition and other physical and chemical factors of the particles greatly affect the health impact and damage to the cells of any biological system from depleted uranium exposure. Particle size may be the most overlooked and one of the most important characteristics of depleted uranium dust formed on the battlefield. After burning, depleted uranium is altered both physically and chemically and estimates of risk to health and dose effects cannot be based on previous studies of naturally occurring uranium. In the Research Report Summaries7 of depleted uranium studies done for the military between 1974 and 1999, they clearly provide information and concerns in these studies about the hazards of depleted uranium both to health, exposure on the battlefield and damage to the environment. This summary is well worth reading as it provides a timeline of the military politicizing decisions on the use of depleted uranium over 25 years. For example, in a 1980 Army report17:



This report provides an excellent history of the logic behind the Army’s decision to use DU as a

kinetic energy, armored-piercing munition. DU’s final selection over tungsten was based on

several reasons, including the lower initial cost of the penetrator itself and its better overall

performance. DU and tungsten were rated even for “producibility”. Tungsten had the advantage

for safety, environmental concerns, and deployment.



RADIATION RESPECTS NO BORDERS

Depleted uranium is being used as an effective munition on the battlefield and as a radiological weapon to destroy the genetic future of the Iraqi people15. Before the Gulf War, Iraq was the most developed and advanced country in the Middle East16. Writing, religion, poetry, music and science began in the region which includes Iraq, the Cradle of Civilization. The ability of the Iraqi people has been recognized for millenia. The Iraqi people are more feared than Saddam Hussein by the US. Their talent for creativity, ability to be self-determined, and their natural resources have made them the target of the US Government, US oil companies and the Department of Defense.



In November of 1991, Richard Berta, the Western Regional Inspector for the Department of Energy who was based at the Lawrence Livermore Lab where I worked, told me: “The Pentagon exists for the oil companies…”



The use of depleted uranium by the Department of Defense has created a slow Chernobyl in the Middle East.



With my best wishes and hopes that this radiation nightmare will finally come to an end, and with thanks for your efforts to move the issue into the light,







Leuren Moret

President, Scientists for Indigenous People

City of Berkeley Environmental Commissioner

Past President, Association for Women Geoscientists

2233 Grant Street Apt. 1

Berkeley, CA 94703

Phone/FAX (510) 845-3139

<leurenmoret@yahoo.com>



REFERENCES:



White House statement on “depleted uranium scare”.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ogc/apparatus/index.html



DOD Colonel Bob Cherry – Letter to Editor, February 2003, Olean Times Herald.



Letter from Dr. Ernest Sternglass August 23, 2001, RE: “Radiation and Dust Particles”



Radiation and Public Health Project

http://www.radiation.org



Discounted Casualties: The Human Cost of Depleted Uranium by Akira Tashiro, Chugoku Shimbun 2001.

http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/index_e.html



“Estimating the Concentration of Uranium in Some Environmental Samples in Kuwait After the 1991 Gulf War” by F. Bou-Rabee, Appl. Radiat. Isol., Vol. 46, No. 4, pp. 217-220, 1995.



Research Report Summaries on Depleted Uranium from 1974-1999, conducted at National Laboratories and military labs.

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/du_ii/du_ii_tabl1.htm#TAB%20L_Research%20Report%20Summaries



“Did NATO Attacks in Yugoslavia Cause a Detectable Environmental Effect in Hungary?” by A. Kerekes et. al, Health Physics, Vol. 80 (2), February 2001, pp.177-178.



“Birds Bring Radioactivity Ashore” by Andy Coghlan, New Scientist, January 4, 2003, p.5.



2003 Recommendations of the European Committee on Radiation Risk: Health Effects of Ionising Radiation Exposure at Low Doses for Radiation Protection Purposes Regulators’ Edition: Brussels, 2003.

http://www.euradcom.org



The Petkau Effect – The Devastating Effect of Nuclear Radiation on Human Health and the Environment by R. Graeub, 2nd Edition, Four Walls Eight Windows, New York (1994).



Personal communication: email March 28, 2002.



“N.Y. air hazards found: EPA assurances contradicted by UCD scientists” by E. Lau and C. Bowman, Sacramento Bee February 12, 2002.

SacramentoBee-2-12-02-NYairHazardsFound-EPAassurancesContradictedByUCdavisScientists.pdf



Detection and Evaluation of Long-Range Transport of Aerosols (DELTA) Group

http://delta.ucdavis.edu/



A Different Nuclear War: Children of the Gulf War by Takashi Morizumi

http://www.savewarchildren.org



Children of Iraq: The Dream of the Future UNICEF, printed by Express International – Lebanon (1988).



Richard P. Davitt “A Comparison of the Advantages and Disadvantages of Depleted Uranium and Tungsten Alloy as Penetrator Materials”, Tank Ammo Section Report No. 107, Dover, NJ: US Army Armament Research and Development Command, June 1980.

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/du_ii/du_ii_tabl1.htm#TAB%20L_Research%20Report%20Summaries



“Depleted uranium: devastation at home and abroad” by Leuren Moret, San Francisco Bay View, November 7, 2001.

http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/02.01/020117moret.htm



“Tödliches Uran-Recycling” by Geseko von Lüpke, NATUR January 2002.

http://warp6.dva.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=112520



ATTACHMENTS:



Attachment 1: “Forword” by Leuren Moret to Discounted Casualties: The Human Cost of Depleted Uranium by

Akira Tashiro, Chugoku Shimbun (2001).



Attachment 2: Declassified memo to General L.R. Groves, Director of the Manhattan Project, October 30, 1943.

Source – US Army Major Doug Rokke



Attachment 3: TABLE: “Characteristics of Particles and Particle Dispersoids” from the HANDBOOK OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS 53rd Edition. This chart provides the particle range which is very wide for metallurgical dusts and fumes, a range from 100 microns to 0.001 microns (10 Angstroms). Particles smaller than 0.1 microns will coagulate and form larger particles, but the greatest number or population of particles will be in the 0.1 micron range (see Chart “Natural Aerosols”). This particle range is smaller than blood cells, bacteria, pollens, spores and other typical air contaminants. Very fine particles are extremely hazardous to health because they are carried by the blood throughout the body. The rate of radiation exposure from one very small particle can be more than is allowed for a whole body exposure in one year (see photo “Hot particle in lung tissue”).



Attachment 4: CHART: “Penetration of a HEPA filter as a function of particle size” from 18TH DOE NUCLEAR AIRBORNE WASTE MANAGEMENT AND AIR CLEANING CONFERENCE, Baltimore 1984. Experimental penetration of particles through a HEPA filter – determination that approximately 0.1% in the 0.1 micron particle range will pass through the filter. If there are 100,000 particles 0.1 micron in diameter per cubic centimeter of air, then 120 per cubic centimeter of air will pass through a HEPA filter. In one day an average man will inhale 28 million particles in the 0.1 micron range through a HEPA filter.



Attachment 5: CHART: “Natural Aerosols” from ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY 7th Edition (1992), McGraw Hill.

This chart provides the average size distribution for natural aerosols in atmospheric dusts. The largest population or number of particles in an aerosol dust is in the 0.1-0.01 micron range. Depleted uranium particles in this size range will be incorporated in atmospheric dusts and will travel indefinitely, transported by winds.



Attachment 6: PHOTO: “Hot” or radioactive particle in lung tissue” photo by Del Tredici, Burdens of Proof by Tim Connor, Energy Research Foundation (1997). This is a photo of a “hot particle”, in this case a 1 micron particle of plutonium, and shows the alpha tracks emitted from that particle in one year.



Attachment 7: Van Nostrand’s Scientific Encyclopedia 5th Edition (1976) Decay paths for natural uranium – Table 1 The Uranium Series, and Table 3 The Actinium Series. The decay paths for uranium are very complex but decay through a number of steps before they become stable and are no longer radioactive. Each of these steps produces a radioactive daughter product which will be more radioactive than the original uranium atom.

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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:39 PM
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12. And for the record,
he was a Californian residing in Maine, not that Maine doesn't have its own native born crazies.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:21 PM
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28. Maine is an interesting place for a California to move to...!
Way too c-c-c-c-c-coldddd.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:44 PM
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14. So, in America, depleted Uranium is a "dirty bomb"
In Iraq, it's "liberation".
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JJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 08:45 PM
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15. Alternate title: Why the inheritance tax is a GOOD thing,
and should be set at about 99% for anything over $5 million.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:02 PM
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21. Amber Cummings??? Hope she wins the insanity defense. n/t
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:09 PM
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25. I live in Belfast
Believe me, there is NO possibility of a Waldo County jury convicting her. It's virtually unanimous opinion here that she did the community a huge favor.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 05:21 AM
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51. Before she killed him, she married him and then lived with him, and with
his "prominently displayed" swastika flag and place settings of Hitler's silverware.
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:06 PM
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23. I wonder did he listen to Rush, Hannity and Savage.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:48 AM
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47. I'm sure he viewed thame as the Zionist enemy.
Hal Turner would've been more hsi speed.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:07 PM
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24. Can you imagine the reaction if instead of this Cummings guy, it was an
Arab-American who hated Bush?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:09 PM
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26. sounds a bit 'far fetched'
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:23 PM
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29. Take tons and tons of material to be a hazardous "dirty bomb."
According to DOD, DOE, and DOH; 32 kiloton Dirty Harry of the Upshot-Knothole series of tests in 1953 was not hazardous. As far as I can ascertain that is still the official Government position.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:30 PM
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30. Dirty bombs don't work.
Well, they might induce panic, but the idea of a bomb spreading radioactive dust over a wide area and sickening everyone in the vicinity is pure paranoia theater.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:56 PM
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32. That's what terrorism is: paranoia theater.
Did the 9/11 killers do more damage to the country by taking down 3 office buildings (the Twin Towers and the Pentagon) or by scaring the US into allowing Bush and the neocons to shred the Contitution and start two wars? Certainly, more Americans were killed by the response (two wars) than in the initial attack.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:49 PM
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31. The only good NAZI is a dead one.

get the double entendre?
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 09:57 PM
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33. Was this fellow a Yalie??
Skull and Bones is supposed to have Hitler's flatware.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 10:06 PM
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34. "Trust fund millionaire". Shithead couldn't even earn his own fortune.
He's basically a rich welfare cheat.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 10:25 PM
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35. And the Bush DOJ was gonna let him blow up his dirty bomb?
If the Bush administration could infiltrate and wiretap every peace activist in the country, they could surely do the same for all the Nazis. When the guy went on-line to buy depleted uranium, this should have triggered a 1000 alarms in the NSA spy room where all transactions are monitored--esp. those of Nazis (one would hope).

Sounds to me like the Bush DOJ and NSA were going to allow him to cook up his dirty bomb and hope that he attacked Obama or a similar target with it. Only his wife interfered.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 10:45 PM
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36. Seems James' father was murdered, too..
years earlier.

<snip>

"Cummings was the son of a wealthy Fort Bragg landowner who also had been murdered. The elder Cummings was shot to death by a former employee in 1997."

http://bangornews.com/detail/99430.html
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:02 AM
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37. .
:wow:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:11 AM
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39. I'm thinking this is the second amendment story of the year.......
Can we give this woman the Medal of Freedom???/
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 05:23 AM
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52. For marrying a Nazi sympathizer? I think not.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:21 AM
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56. For Doing the Right Thing.
Even Nazi sympathizers can have a change of heart, do the right thing....

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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:23 AM
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41. trust fund right-wing goofball eats a bullet
good for him.
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