I f--king hate suburban upper-middle-class Republicans.

Too foolish not to buy into all the rugged individualism bullshit thrown around by the talking heads and the far-right think-tanks.

Too stupid to recognize their own dependence on government supplied laws and services.

Too obnoxious not to decry the evils of all sorts of government at every possible opportunity, even when it has not even the most tenuous connection to what the subject was.

At least with some rural Republicans there's at the smallest fraction of intellectual honesty, where their "leave me alone" attitude is genuine, and they genuinely don't want much government attention.(Although not to the point of giving up heavily censored TV, of course.)

But the suburban UMC Repubs live in their damn government zoned housing developments, drive on government roads, bitch about how the TV isn't censored enough, watch their parents collect Social Security, use their government regulated phone, water, electrical services, and a dozen other things, then bitch about paying any sort of taxes--usually throwing in a strong dose of contempt for anybody who isn't so strong and ruggedly individualistic as them, anybody who might benefit from government services.

with a cup of coffee on the deck or the clean water we like to drink and go boating in or the benefits of going to work in a place that won't burn down or collapse when the wind blows - all of these things brought to the massess by concerned liberals and funded with tax dollars.

Sorry for the run on sentence - it couldn't be avoided.

my upper middle class cousin was ranting on at a family gathering about social security, and how it was no longer needed, and it should be privatized, blah blah blah, until we reminded him that our Grandmother SURVIVED on social security ALONE. Neither that asswipe nor his parents, who were pretty well off, gave her one red cent. That shut him up.

My parents would be destitute without it. Then my mother asks me why I don't support privatizing it.

She was 65 and still had a mortgage on her condo. She told me that she didn't think too much of Social Security. Of course when the time came, she was first in line for Medicare and her Social Security.

She retired, sold her condo and moved to the rural part of the state. I hear though the grapevine that she's not too happy. She's living in a mobil home and I guess her dreams of friendly, helpful neighbors are not panning out. It doesn't surprise me because I grew up in the rural part of the state and neighbors are suspicious of outsiders.

She used to drive me crazy with her views on world. She never realized that as an older lady alone in the world, she would be one of the first to be sacrificed on the mantel of rugged individuality.

But aren't interested in themselves or their children enlisting in, nor do they feel obliged to pay for it via taxes. Selfish, hypocritical, greedy assholes, the lot of them.

They just see to it that Ashleigh and Cody aren't one of "them"...

The yellow ribbon magnet and plastic flag antenna ornament on their SUVs demonstrate just how much they love their country and their troops. And anyone who suggests otherwise is a traitor and enabler of Islamofascism!

I beg to differ there.

Farmers (mostly centered in rural areas) get MASSIVE subsidies from the government and then talk about how they are for small government. In fact, they couldn't exist without them. Also, because there are fewer jobs in rural areas, people are more dependent on the welfare state.

I speak from experience, having lived in a town of 3,100 my whole life.

I, too, find the rugged invidualism shit really funny. Everyone's all for the free-market and self-reliance when things are good; they equate their affluance with personal attributes that lower classes just don't have, rather than the reality of the situation: some external mega corporation (itself receiving massive subsidies) giving them a job by pure chance. The degree to which their economic status is misattributed to personal talent or qualities is humorous. Fact is, almost no one grows their own food anymore, so we're all dependent on someone else.

Related story: On the outskirts of the town in which I live, there is a rich farmer who has an outhouse in front of his yard that says "Hillary Clinton's White House." Presumably, his animosity stems from his alleged distaste for "big government Democrats." The irony is rich.

I too have witnessed this hypocrisy in the rural midwest. In the Raygun years, I remember them all screaming about those awful welfare queens.

But to question the subsidies they received from the Federal govt was blasphemy. I never heard of any of them turn down money from govt.

Peak Oil (along with the other attendant economic consequences of voting Republican) are going to hit the clueless, wasteful and "entitled" the hardest.

They think their unsustainable lifestyle is non-negotiable- but natural as well as economic laws don't care one bit about what they think.

There's no reason for this level of stupidity.

'nuff said.

http://www.bravotv.com/Real_Housewives/Bios/Lauri.shtml
:bounce::rofl:

...she should try and be happy with a man who's a mere plumber. Egads!

From what I've seen of plumber's rates lately, she could do far worse.

The fact is that we need to convince repub voters to change sides if we want to build on our slim congressional majorities and recapture the white house. I'm not sure your approach is the best way to do that.

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By giving up on the voters that we need to convince to shift over to Democratic candidates? Don't think so.

we're never going to convince the "I've got mine, you can go fuck yourself" Republicans to come to our side. Better to spend time and resources going for the working class and the struggling poor. Those are the people who feel disenfranchised and aren't voting, but if they did, would more than likely vote Democratic.

middle class, upper class, lower class. they're all human garbage.

Most Republicans I know are good people, they are just uninformed or mislead by the Religious Right.

yes, many are idiot fundies but not all. many are just plain old white trash. either way, they are garbage if they support racism, homophobia, illegal war, destruction of the environment, etc.

That was back before they decided to woo the racists and the Talibornagains. That was back when (if I had been alive then) I could respect their opinion even if I didn't agree with it.

I doubly hate the ones who are second or third generation money. :grr:

and we seem to have it in abundance. :banghead:

http://www.bushflash.com/ihr.html

A catchy little ditty if there ever was one!