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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:26 PM Original message |
Are R's & D's Equally To Blame For The Current Financial Crisis? (AKA, The 50/50 Argument) |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Newt Gingrich, Phil Gramm, Tom Delay, |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Even just reading those criminal's names grates on my last nerve. |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well said! K&R. This false equivalency always bothered me and I wish the media would stop pushing it |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. The 'not Jimmy Carter' link is especially helpful! |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Absolutely not.. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
5. Have you read the article, Infinite Debt by Thomas Geoghegan |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. No, but it sounds so good I may have to break down and buy it. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. "capping interest at 9%" is a reasonably just idea. You should post this as an OP, JDP. |
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davomartinez (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Thomas Geoghegan |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fuckin' A Right! The Dems should make this point often and strongly... |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Thanks for the link, I've seen that one before. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. kandr |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Enabling isn't quite the same as being a perpetrator |
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matthewf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. k&r- good work! |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. Not entirely fair to blame "The Dems". |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. "Pro-business" |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Right |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I would include the uninformed "moderates" at DU. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I don't necessarily disagree. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
15. I won't even pretend to understand how these fools |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. Blue dogs are not dems they lie to themselves first and then to the public. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. That's what scares me about this new "centrist coalition". |
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Juan_de_la_Dem (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. Great thoughts |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is NOT a battle between R and D but between "Corporatist" R and Blue Dog Ds and EVERYONE ELSE! |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Unfortunately many in the general public don't dig that deeply. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
19. It was a joint effort - Glass Steagall repealed 9n 1999 then |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
20. K and R great job |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
21. K & R Well spoken, Tom. eom |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
23. I do believe this hearkens back |
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serrano2008 (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. All of government is equally to blame - forget the "R's & D's" |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I guess we're getting into semantics. |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
30. YES |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Did you read the post or just the post title? n/t |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. yes |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. That's letting conservative ideology off the hook far too easily IMO. n/t |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
38. Okay, what would make you happier? 60/40? 70/30? 80/20? The fact is, Dems HAVE been complicit. |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I thought I made a fairly nuanced argument. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Setting the record straight means looking straight in the eye of the whole establishment assumption |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I don't necessarily disagree. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Hey, I know we're on the same side -- & how can I argue with someone who has Vonnegut as his avatar? |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. A Vonnegut fan! |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
44. I don't even think this is a partisan issue at all. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
45. I blame Republicans and the Republican minded to the tune of |
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