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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 08:48 PM
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Failing Florida schools face sanctions. Using "disaster capitalism" to privatize public schools.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 09:26 PM by madfloridian
I know when I write about this ongoing marginalization of public education that I am beating my head against a stone wall. Teachers have been treated negatively for so many years now that there is almost no chance of turning back the clock. I do remember a time when teachers were respected, and both parents and children treated us with respect. That time ended basically when suddenly during the Reagan years, things changed.

In proud2Blib's Journal recently a study was referred to that probably changed the course of public education.

My unofficial history of education in the US during my career and attempts to 'fix' it

Back in the early 80s right after Reagan was elected president, a report called A Nation at Risk came out. It was a detailed analysis of education in America written by several leading authorities who were told to do some research and find out what was wrong with our public schools in America. Note they weren't told to examine and report on the state of public education but to find out what was wrong. So the assumption that our public schools were failing our kids was implanted. Add that to the growing number of white families abandoning public schools and you have a problem waiting for a solution.

They must have spent a gazillion dollars printing out copies of this report because for several years back in the 80s, it was everywhere. I had 3 copies of it at one time. The Reagan administration was determined to get this report out to the American people.

About the time this report came out, a new idea formed in the minds of the private school parents who still wanted to save money educating their kids. Why not have the government give them a voucher that they could use for tuition? So they began pushing that idea.

Meanwhile in the late 80s and the early 90s, states began telling school districts that if they wanted more and more state funding they were going to have to do something to show they were actually educating kids. So the TEST came to be.


I remember that time. We teachers were suddenly hearing how our schools were failing, but oddly enough they were not.

There was a method to this "analysis"....make public schools look bad. Then they could have their own agenda worked in. We were doing a good job, but they started to badmouth us. It finally worked, as is shown today even on Democratic forums like DU.

Howard Dean was outspoken on NCLB. The failures are coming to fruition in 2010. More failures by 2013.

"The president's ultimate goal," said former Gov. Howard Dean (D-Vt.), one of the Democrats who now harshly attacks NCLB, "is to make the public schools so awful, and starve them of money, just as he's starving all the other social programs, so that people give up on the public schools."

..."It's going to cost them more in property taxes and other taxes than they are going to get out of it," Dean told The Associated Press following a campaign stop.

..."Every group, including special education kids, has to be at 100 percent to pass the tests," Dean said. "No school system in America can do that. That ensures that every school will be a failing school."


I hate it when they call them "failing" schools. The main standards being used are how well the students can take tests. By next year many of these schools be either closed down, have their principals and staff replaced, or perhaps turned over to a private institution. Maybe turned into charter schools. That is an option.

It is painful to see the predictions coming now. Florida will be facing some serious decisions by next year and more down the road.

Florida education board focuses on failing schools

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- The State Board of Education unanimously approved intervention plans Tuesday for closing one and revamping 11 schools with the worst student achievement records in Florida.

The plans will kick in at the schools still operating if they fail to get off the critical list after the state issues its school grades later this year. The steps include firing principals and removing or reassigning teachers or requiring that teachers reapply for their jobs. Other actions include increased funding and staffing such as more reading, math and science coaches.

..."Florida is one of six states the federal government approved to participate in the pilot program. It combines state and federal school grading systems and is aimed at focusing outside assistance where it is most needed.

Most Florida schools have failed to make adequate yearly progress under No Child Left Behind although three-fourths of the state's schools earned A's or B's on their state report cards. The state grades are based on how well students do on the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test, or FCAT. Students have been taking the standardized test this month. Before differentiated accountability, a school had to meet up to 39 No Child Left Behind criteria and missing just one might be enough to get a failing grade.


If you are an A or B school, there is only one way to go...up. But think how hard it is to improve on an A, or even a B. So top schools are starting to fail some of the standards now. Yet no talk of getting rid of NCLB...just talk of fixing it and adding more testing. Maybe funding it.

Schools on the intervention list have received D's and F's from the state for the past couple years. A school must get a D or higher from the state and improve in at least one No Child Left Behind math or reading subgroup or its intervention plan will go into effect. To get completely off the intervention list, a school has to get at least a C from the state and improve in two No Child Left Behind subgroups.


I call these the schools that have been left behind by defunding of public schools, by sending more resources to charter, magnet, choice schools.....And the very worst of all are the vouchers being given to kids to attend private religious schools with public taxpayer money. 42,000 of them at last count.

It's the start of the corporation of schools, making sure our kids are good test takers. Arne Duncan has spoken out calling for using the stimulus money to form a database to keep better track of students test scores...and to grade the teachers thusly. Stimulus money is also going to form more charter schools according to Duncan.

Florida is facing a rough time. Here are some of the ways they can treat public schools who are not measuring up the NCLB.

Options for failing schools

Restructuring a school is the most serious penalty for not meeting AYP, said Sherrie Nickell, the associate superintendent of learning.

Some restructuring options include the school becoming a charter school, replacement of staff or having a separate organization contract to run the school.

1. Becoming a charter school. Though they are start up funded with public money, they do not have to meet the regulations that public schools must meet. That is getting into some cloudy areas.

Charter schools do not have to keep students who do not perform to expectation and their standards. Correct me if some of that has changed. Where do you send those students then? Now they send them back to "public" schools whose funding is being taken away for "charter" schools.

2. Replacement of staff. So sad. Instead of providing support there are only penalties. There are so many good teachers at these 18 schools, laboring without proper tools and books.

3. Having a separate organization contract to run the school. This is the option that says "privatize" the most loudly. These schools whose funding has been sidetracked for private school vouchers and charter schools, and don't forget magnet schools which get all they need....these schools will now be turned over to a private contractor.


The corporate Democrats under Al From's tutelage have completely seen their plan ripen under Obama and Duncan. Charter schools have long been their goal.

Al From called for charter schools in 2000

The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) is now calling for reforms including school choice and merit pay for teachers.....America is a tale of two public school systems: one that works reasonably well, although it could certainly be better, and one that is by almost any standard a disaster," says From.

.."From argues that the public school system too often serves the interests of teachers and administrators at the expense of the students themselves. It is a "monopolistic" system that "offers a 'one-size-fits-hardly-anyone' model that strangles excellence and innovation" he says.

Characterizing charter schools as "oases of innovation," From writes, "The time has come to bring life to the rest of the desert-by introducing the same forces of choice and competition to every public school in America."

From also says Democrats should work to redefine the very notion of public education itself.

"We should rid ourselves of the rigid notion that public schools are defined by who owns and operates them," he writes.


He is wrong. Public schools must not be owned by private entities. The integrity of their teaching philosophies could be undermined if they are not owned by the public. Bad mistake.

They have been using "disaster" to privatize public schools.

Schooling in disaster capitalism: how the political right is using disaster to privatize public schooling.

Around the world, disaster is providing the means for business to accumulate profit. From the Asian tsunami of 2005 that allowed corporations to seize coveted shoreline properties for resort development to the multi-billion dollar no-bid reconstruction contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan, from the privatization of public schooling following Hurricane Katrina in the Gulf Coast to the ways that No Child Left Behind sets public school up to be dismantled and made into investment opportunities--a grotesque pattern is emerging in which business is capitalizing on disaster. Naomi Klein has written of,

"... the rise of a predatory form of disaster capitalism that uses
the desperation and fear created by catastrophe to engage in
radical social and economic engineering. And on this front, the
reconstruction industry works so quickly and efficiently that the
privatizations and land grabs are usually locked in before the
local population knows what hit them."


Using a time of disaster to bring radical change, hoping no one objects because they are concentrating on the tragedies at hand.

Here is more on the connection between privatization, disaster capitalism, and the NCLB.

Capitalizing on Disaster in Education

Despite the range of obvious failures of multiple public school privatization initiatives, the privatization advocates have hardly given up. In fact, the privatizers have become far more strategic. The new educational privatization might be termed "back door privatization" or maybe "smash and grab" privatization. A number of privatization schemes are being initiated through a process involving the dismantling of public schools followed by the opening of for-profit, charter, and deregulated public schools. These enterprises typically despise teachers unions, are hostile to local democratic governance and oversight, and have an unquenchable thirst for "experiments," especially with the private sector. (10) These initiatives are informed by right wing think tanks and business organizations. Four examples that typify back door privatization are: (1) No Child Left Behind, (2) Chicago's Renaissance 2010 project, (3) educational rebuilding in Iraq, and (4) educational rebuilding in New Orleans.

No Child Left Behind

No Child Left Behind sets schools up for failure by making impossible demands for continual improvement. When schools have not met Adequate Yearly Progress, they are subject to punitive action by the federal government, including the potential loss of formerly guaranteed federal funding and requirements for tutoring from a vast array of for-profit Special Educational Service providers. A number of authors have described how NCLB is a boon for the testing and tutoring companies while it doesn't provide financial resources for the test score increases it demands. (11) (This is aside from the cultural politics of whose knowledge these tests affirm and discredit). (12) Sending billions of dollars of support the way of the charter school movement, NCLB pushes schools that do not meet AYP to restructure in ways that encourage privatization, discourage unions, and avoid local regulations on crucial matters. One study has found that by 2013 nearly all of the public schools in the Great Lakes region of the U.S. will be declared failed public schools and subject to such reforms. (13) Clearly, NCLB is designed to accomplish the implementation of privatization and deregulation in ways that open action could not.


This is a long article, but well worth the read. Other articles are listed on the bottom of each page of the article. By being so accepting and being in a state of denial, we are in danger of losing our public school system.

When your Secretary of Education wants to use stimulus money, NOT to help public schools but to start more testing databases and charter schools....you know you are beaten.

I am retired. I am glad. The others will have to fight what battle might be left.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:32 PM
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1. A wee bit of hope. The "for profit" groups managing public schools for profit...
not doing so well, at least in this article from 2007. Edison is mentioned. They are still growing though, the thing of the future.

"Educators committed to defending and strengthening public education as a crucial public sphere in a democratic society may be relieved by several recent failures of the educational privatization movement. By 2000 business publications were eyeing public education as the next big score, ripe for privatization and commodification, likening it to the medical and military industries and suggesting that it might yield $600 billion a year in possible takings. (4) However, it has become apparent that only a few years later Educational Management Organizations (EMO), that seek to manage public schools for profit, have not overtaken public education (though EMOs are growing at an alarming rate of a five-fold increase in schools managed in six years). The biggest experiment in for-profit management of public schooling, The Edison Schools, continues as a symbol, according to the right-wing business press, of why running schools for profit on a vast scale is not profitable. (5) The massive EMO Knowledge Universe, created by junk bond felon Michael Milken upon his release from prison from nearly a hundred counts of fraud and insider trading, is in the midst of going out of business."

http://www.articlearchives.com/company-activities-management/public-sector/967502-1.html

Still though the sober fact remains:

"NCLB is setting up for failure not just Illinois public schools but public schools nationally by raising test-oriented thresholds without raising investment and commitment. NCLB itself appears to be a system designed to result in the declaration of wide-scale failure of public schooling to justify privatization. (17) Dedicated administrators, teachers, students, and schools are not receiving much-needed resources along with public investment in public services and employment in the communities where those schools are situated. What they are getting instead are threats."
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:30 AM
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8. Edison is one that tried to make a profit.
The corporations that come in after won't even pretend to try to do it the right way. They will lobby and receive state contracts for schools. The only oversight will be the crooked legislators who gave the tax money to the corporations. When they retire from "public service" they will get fat jobs on the boards of these corps. Our schools will work just like the military-industrial complex.

We were screwed when progressives began swallowing the lies and began attacking teachers and schools. It's as if liberals had come to the south in the fifties and sixties to tell minorities to get in line and start behaving so they could be good employees. The schools and the teachers are the victims of a right wing attack. Many "progressives" have their egos tied up in their children's bumper sticker and so they have joined the dark side for this battle.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:24 AM
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10. One school for "drop-outs" in FL only got 3% of funds due to charter school contract.
If true this is alarming.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20090313/NEWS/903132971

"Whitehat Management and the Polk County School Board knew a year ago that Life Skills' local Board would choose to replace Whitehat Management if certain conditions were not met. You can view the local Board's letter to the School Board at http://www.polk-fl.net/districtinfo/boardmembers/meetings/051308/548EB695-76E9-4277-950D-78B27D81FA4C.pdf.

Mark Rice has been President of Whitehat for six months and has never set foot on the Life Skills campus. Very few Whitehat people have ever been to Life Skills. However, the local Board meets every month on campus and makes a point of greeting students and staff.

The turnover rate for staff is well below that of any regular school, let alone an alternative-education school. All teachers will have completed their certification by the end of this term. This dedicated staff works with these students with the odds stacked against them, with no recognition and little payback. They have few resources due to the contract with Whitehat; Whitehat keeps 97 percent of Life Skills money received per year, and gives Life Skills 3 percent to operate with."

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kmlisle Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:43 PM
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19. Excellent post!
I'm still teaching in Florida and eying our pension fund which lost a third of its value in the last few months as I hope to retire in a few years. You really lay out the privatization efforts that I was sure were happening. Thank you! One part this picture of "failing schools" that I will add is the effect of any kind of minority population on your "failing" score. This can be racial, economic or socioeconomic minorities or special education groups. Each group that makes up over a certain percentage of your school population is separated in terms of passing and failing scores and in order for a school to pass each of these groups must pass. So the more minority groups you have the more chances you have to fail NCLB. Schools with high numbers of ESE and minority populations like our Title I school have a dozen or so ways to fail and only one way to pass (all sub groups must pass)! Also Title one schools go on the failing list earlier than non title one schools and they begin to take our extra Title one money away and use it to bus our children to other schools and to do the private tutoring (hiring our own "failing teachers" to do this tutoring). Its interesting that our "failing school" has made As and Bs on FL State grades a number of times and never made below a C. We are often near the top of our district scores in math and science and writing and have scored in the top 25% in the State on writing scores. We have families moving into our school attendance area because the school has such a good reputation and yet we have been on the list of failing schools for NCLB every year except one. The reason for this was usually one or two populations that were separated out for being either special ed or low income who failed the tests while 90% of our population not only passed but had average scores near the top for our district and sometimes the state! But we are a failing school according to NCLB and just had a meeting about restructuring. While this may horrify you the results in our classrooms to the children is even more horrifying as children are subjected to kill and drill and ever more diagnostic testing in desperate efforts to prepare them for the all important State test. The result has been less and less time spent on problem solving, deep understanding of concepts, projects, celebrations of what has been learned and activities that lead to critical thinking. I kept a calendar this year that showed that 1 day out of 5 was wasted on extra tests and other test prep diversions from my regular curriculum. I have taught in Florida for 16 years now and do less hands on and project based learning in my science classroom than ever before because there is less time to teach. Time for a change!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:49 PM
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2. Families march in Tally...protesting cuts to art, music, sports, teachers.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-031909-educationcutsrally,0,5138691.story

"TALLAHASSEE - Hoisting signs, a vocal and angry assembly of several thousand parents, students and school officials jammed the capitol Wednesday to protest slashed education spending with a simple mantra: No more cuts.

Four busloads came from Broward County Click here for restaurant inspection reports, joining parents and teachers from across the state to confront legislators over classroom cuts that could trim sports and arts and jeopardize the job security of teachers.

"You've awoken a sleeping giant," said Marie Wright, principal of Fort Lauderdale Is your Fort Lauderdale restaurant clean? - Click Here. High School, addressing the crowd on the capitol steps. "For many years, we have quiet. And maybe it was easy for our representatives to make these cuts, because most of our children aren't of voting age. But you know what, we have parents who do vote and do care."

Organized by parent-teacher groups, the crowd called for new revenue to fund public education, including a penny sales tax dedicated to schools."
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:10 PM
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3. "Using 'disaster capitalism' to privatize public schools." Damn right it is. K+R, n/t
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:39 AM
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4. K&R
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:51 AM
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5. kick. what people don't get about nclb: it's designed to make *every* school "fail" & defund them.
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 12:55 AM by Hannah Bell
i was shocked when i read how it worked, & wondered why the no-win legislation wasn't being torn apart in the media - why they didn't even *mention* this aspect of the legislation.


..."Every group, including special education kids, has to be at 100 percent to pass the tests," Dean said. "No school system in America can do that. That ensures that every school will be a failing school."



then i got it - no accident, the goal was to get rid of public schools by stealth, under the guise of reform.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:38 AM
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6. my friend worked for a district that bussed all the special needs kids to one school
instead of the special needs kids pulling down the test score averages in all the schools the district only had one under preforming school. she had to spend over 2000 out of pocket to supply her music students with proper tools to learn. the district also under funded the school so the others had more resources.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:11 AM
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7. After Reagan Took Down the Air Traffic Controllers, He Went After the Teachers
but they fought back.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:13 PM
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13. He was so cheered when he took down the air traffic controllers.
I remember that so clearly. He tried to sound so big and tough and important.

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:14 AM
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9. Great post. Rec'd. nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:53 AM
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11. Charter schools have been DLC's baby....look at their board of trustees.
It would also explain why we need to careful of their views on Medicare changes and changes to Social Security. Their best interests are not our best interests, and they have not gone anywhere at all in spite of the hoopla. They are entrenched in the administration and congress.

From The American Prospect in 2001

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=4706

Privately funded and operating as an extraparty organization without official Democratic sanction, and calling themselves "New Democrats," the DLC sought nothing less than the miraculous: the transubstantiation of America's oldest political party. Though the DLC painted itself using the palette of the liberal left--as "an effort to revive the Democratic Party's progressive tradition," with New Democrats being the "trustees of the real tradition of the Democratic Party"--its mission was far more confrontational. With few resources, and taking heavy flak from the big guns of the Democratic left, the DLC proclaimed its intention, Mighty Mouse–style, to rescue the Democratic Party from the influence of 1960s-era activists and the AFL-CIO, to ease its identification with hot-button social issues, and, perhaps most centrally, to reinvent the party as one pledged to fiscal restraint, less government, and a probusiness, pro–free market outlook.

It's hard to argue that they haven't succeeded.

While the DLC will not formally disclose its sources of contributions and dues, the full array of its corporate supporters is contained in the program from its annual fall dinner last October, a gala salute to Lieberman that was held at the National Building Museum in Washington. Five tiers of donors are evident: the Board of Advisers, the Policy Roundtable, the Executive Council, the Board of Trustees, and an ad hoc group called the Event Committee--and companies are placed in each tier depending on the size of their check. For $5,000, 180 companies, lobbying firms, and individuals found themselves on the DLC's board of advisers, including British Petroleum, Boeing, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Coca-Cola, Dell, Eli Lilly, Federal Express, Glaxo Wellcome, Intel, Motorola, U.S. Tobacco, Union Carbide, and Xerox, along with trade associations ranging from the American Association of Health Plans to the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America. For $10,000, another 85 corporations signed on as the DLC's policy roundtable, including AOL, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Citigroup, Dow, GE, IBM, Oracle, UBS PacifiCare, PaineWebber, Pfizer, Pharmacia and Upjohn, and TRW.

And for $25,000, 28 giant companies found their way onto the DLC's executive council, including Aetna, AT&T, American Airlines, AIG, BellSouth, Chevron, DuPont, Enron, IBM, Merck and Company, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Texaco, and Verizon Communications. Few, if any, of these corporations would be seen as leaning Democratic, of course, but here and there are some real surprises. One member of the DLC's executive council is none other than Koch Industries, the privately held, Kansas-based oil company whose namesake family members are avatars of the far right, having helped to found archconservative institutions like the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy. Not only that, but two Koch executives, Richard Fink and Robert P. Hall III, are listed as members of the board of trustees and the event committee, respectively--meaning that they gave significantly more than $25,000.

The DLC board of trustees is an elite body whose membership is reserved for major donors, and many of the trustees are financial wheeler-dealers who run investment companies and capital management firms--though senior executives from a handful of corporations, such as Koch, Aetna, and Coca-Cola, are included. Some donate enormous amounts of money, such as Bernard Schwartz, the chairman and CEO of Loral Space and Communications, who single-handedly finances the entire publication of Blueprint, the DLC's retooled monthly that replaced The New Democrat. "I sought them out, after talking to Michael Steinhardt," says Schwartz. "I like them because the DLC gives resonance to positions on issues that perhaps candidates cannot commit to."

A key member of the event committee for the 2000 annual fall dinner was Mike Lewan, who runs a boutique lobbying house that has represented clients such as Oracle and BellSouth. In the late 1980s, Lewan, who joined the DLC because he was "one of those disaffected Democrats," went to work as Lieberman's chief of staff--and promptly introduced the Connecticut senator to the DLC. Today, Lewan helps recruit support for the DLC on K Street. "It's astonishing to me how much support the DLC is getting from the professional Washington people, the lawyers, the lobbyists," he says. "There's a relationship and a trust level that's been built up."

Joining Lewan on the event committee were several dozen of Washington's elite lobbyists, including representatives from the Dutko Group, Greenberg Traurig, the Wexler Group, Verner, Liipfert, and SVP Kessler and Associates, all with blue-chip clients, along with lobbyists for Chevron, Citigroup, Salomon Smith Barney, and others. One was Arthur Lifson, vice president for federal affairs at Cigna Corporation, one of the nation's largest health insurers and a company that stands to gain enormously if, say, Medicare were privatized along the lines proposed by the DLC and by one of its founders, Senator John Breaux of Louisiana. "The DLC is trying to bring some fresh ideas to Medicare and to dealing with the uninsured," says Lifson, whose company is listed as a member of the DLC's policy roundtable. "It builds on changes that are taking place in the marketplace, rather than turning everything on its head Hillary Care." Lifson frankly endorses the DLC as a counterweight to "populists ... at the other end of the party."


The article does not specifically mention charter schools, but that is their background. They have pushed for these charter schools at a steady pace...and they are about to reach their goal.

It's why it is so easy to ignore the voices of those of us who are just average people. We only count on election day. The rest of the time they can play us until they get their agenda done.

Here are their plans for charters schools.

Charter school incubators
http://dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251957&kaid=139&subid=273

Charter schools and mayors
http://dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=252608&kaid=139&subid=273

Financing buildings for charter schools
http://dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251956&kaid=139&subid=273

Focusing school boards on performance
http://dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=251955&kaid=139&subid=273

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:10 PM
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12. K&R
:kick:
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:16 PM
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14. We'd never have had electricity or radio had there been corp. schools.
But we'd have had guys making money placing BETS on the likelihood that we'd have electricity or radio.

How did this country ever develop anything without corporate schools? Answer: we did everything.

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Turk 182 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:54 AM
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15. You are sooooo right!
K&R As a former and, thankfully retired, teacher I couldn't agree with you more. And I am sorely disappointed that Obama seems to have joined those who want to disable and ultimately destroy public education, although I'm sure he thinks that he is helping us. I don't know who's serving him the cool-aide, but he has to be detoxed and shown the way.

A free PUBLIC EDUCATION has been the great leveler in our society, giving people of all backgrounds and economic situations the chance to succeed. It is indeed the true backbone of the "American Dream".
Without it, we will go back to a rigidly classed society where the rich get the best education, thereby ensuring the continuation of their economic and social rule, and the poor get just enough education to work for the rich. We will be back in the 19th century once again.
Public education, along with labor unions, helped to create a strong, upwardly mobile middle class which in turn created the incredibly high standard of living that we have enjoyed since the end of WWII. (yes, I know we gobbled up a hugh amount of the world's resources to do it, but that's another issue).

As a former teachers' union official, I have seen this coming for many years, but its like talking to the deaf. Even many of my colleagues, especially the younger ones, don't seem to "get it". They don't seem to understand at a gut level how important the political atmosphere is to their ability to do their jobs, or for that matter, to even have a job. And if they don't "get it". how can we expect the public to understand that its not the teachers or schools that are failing, but the conditions of society which are failing their children.

Children who live in homeless shelters and come to school malnourished, who see violence in their everyday lives and who have lost their childhood require so much more than we can give them. I worked in a district which has a transient rate of over 33%; at least one third of any graduating class did not start in our district. Add to this the number of free and reduced price lunches we serve ( about 45% qualify) which indicates the level of poverty in a district, and you see why our children are failing.

Teachers are better trained and qualified than ever in our history, but we can't cope with or correct what society inflicts on many of our children, and yet we are expected to do it with underfunded schools, crowded classrooms, obsolete textbooks, and all the so-called experts looking over our shoulders' who keep telling us what WE are doing wrong.

We have been given an impossible task, ridiculous goals to meet, and tests which only measure how well a child has been trained to take a test.

We have been set-up to fail, and we are seceding!


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 06:08 AM
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20. Chicago, Obama's home turf, has been one of the successful grounds for charters.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 08:58 AM
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16. Piglet Jeb's wet dream......
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:20 AM
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17. K&R
Hey MadFloridian could you please post in this thread or send in a PM all the links to the threads you've done on Charter Schools? I'd appreciate that as I've been looking for more info on this. Big issue around these parts at present as well as elsewhere.

Thanks in advance and keep the info coming. Very helpful.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:10 AM
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18. Seems to me when bussing was made mandatory, according to Republicans schools were "failing"
As soon as their precious white children had to sit next to a blck child the schools were no longer decent places for their children to get an education and they looked to Charter or Private Schools but needed Government help to do so. Along came Reagan...Most things equate to race with Republicans.
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undertheboardwalk Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:23 PM
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21. schools need to deal with fair discipline
In my opinion schools need to deal with fair discipline. Some of the schools are disciplining kids of color and kids disabilities harsher than others. In fact 21 states still use corporal punishment, a little known fact. It's what they do here in Georgia. I pulled open records requests on the state of Georgia to see exactly how often this is occuring. The numbers are astonishing.

Until schools address discipline in a fair and equitable manner and leave out the paddling, I don't know what will fix them.
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