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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:16 AM
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Bank of America & Citigroup recycled TARP funds into campaign contributions
Follow the Bailout Cash
By Michael Isikoff and Dina Fine Maron | NEWSWEEK
Published Mar 21, 2009
From the magazine issue dated Mar 30, 2009

There was plenty of outrage on Capitol Hill last week over the executive bonuses paid out by AIG after getting federal bailout money. But another money trail could make voters just as angry: the campaign dollars to members of Congress from banks and firms that have received billions via the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

While a few big firms, such as Wells Fargo and JP Morgan Chase, have curtailed their campaign giving, others are quietly doling out cash to select members of Congress, particularly those who serve on committees that oversee TARP. In recent filings with the Federal Election Commission, the political action committee for Bank of America (which got $15 billion in bailout money) sent out $24,500 in the first two months of 2009, including $1,500 to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and another $15,000 to members of the House and Senate banking panels. Citigroup ($25 billion) dished out $29,620, including $2,500 to House GOPWhip Eric Cantor, who also got $10,000 from UBS which, while not a TARP recipient, got $5 billion in bailout funds as an AIG "counterparty." "This certainly appears to be a case of TARP funds being recycled into campaign contributions," says Brett Kappell, a D.C. lawyer who tracks donations. (A spokesman for Cantor did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Hoyer said it's his "policy to accept legal contributions.")

The cash flow is already causing angst inside the Beltway. "The last thing I want to do is wake up one morning and see our PAC check being burned on C-Span," said one bank lobbyist, who asked not to be identified because of the issue's sensitivity. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Financial Services chair Rep. Barney Frank both said recently they won't take donations from TARP recipients. But House Democratic fundraisers have quietly passed the word that the party's campaign committee will resume accepting them—but down the road, not right now. Said one fundraiser, who also requested anonymity, "These are treacherous waters."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/190363
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:25 AM
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1. This should be illegal as hell, don't give me that 'free speach' crap
if speach was truly 'free' it would not need to be paid for...public financing for all! If the politicians don't get enough money to blanket the airwaves, they will find more creative ways to get the word out..and those are the people we need.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:36 PM
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31. Don'tcha get it? It IS public financing! :-) n/t
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:27 AM
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2. How is this not a crime? Arent (certain) congress-critters funneling money to THEMSELVES
through this bailout roundabout?

If Senator No-Name sits on a committee that grants bailout money to ABC Corp (who has a history of donating to Senator No-Name), then ABC turns around and gives more to Sen. No-Name, how is this not more than simple money laundering?

Please tell me I am WAY WRONG on this.


Cant we then arrest 99% of Congress and prosecute under RICO Statutes? Yay, then we can start all over.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:33 AM
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3. Well, you're right of course.
The most disgusting part of this, in an odd way, is that the politicians are selling themselves so cheap. They're ladling out billions and only getting thousands in bribes campaign contributions.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:15 AM
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11. yes, our politicians are cheap whores
The corporations always get a huge payoff on their petty bribes.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:35 AM
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4. The old "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" gambit
I am assuming that a money-laundering case would be prosecuted on the basis of having proof that a member (or members) of Congress had advance knowledge of, and participation in orchestrating, the "recycling" of funds.

So you can imagine the "covering of one's tracks" that would have to occur prior to such a "recycling" event.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:43 AM
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6. "advance knowledge" my ass. Continued participation could be proved when they cash the checks
that the corps were sending in to them. THIS is the Ponzi scheme that no one will talk about.

Now if I'm ten days late sending in my quarterly tax payments, I get the threatening letters while those in charge have institutionalized quid pro quo, money laundering, racketeering, corruption........

When will we agree that the Social Contract has been broken, thus freeing us from upholding our end of the bargain?
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:13 AM
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10. This is a crime!
This is such bullshit I can't stand it anymore. But who is going to prosecute them? John Conyers?

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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:26 AM
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14. He probably has something to hide, too.
Who doesn't up there?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:45 PM
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25. Absolutely. Steny Hoyer and the rest need to give the money back, pronto.
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:48 AM
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47. Like Michael Kinsley said ....
"The scandal isn't what's illegal; it's what's legal."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 09:41 AM
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5. Our Congresscritters really need to starting wearing logos of their sponsors on their suits.
:nuke:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:16 AM
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12. If you don't mind, I am going to steal that idea and make a photoshop request......
ok with you?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:28 AM
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15. Great idea!
I look forward to seeing the result. :thumbsup:
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:35 AM
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16. good luck trying to fit all the corporations on there
can't wait to see it :applause:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 01:08 AM
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34. Here's a running start
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 01:15 AM by chill_wind
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 04:06 AM
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37. get sponsorship t-shirts made & send them to congresspeople.
do a press release, too.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:54 PM
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26. I think this is a brilliant idea. n/t
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:38 AM
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7. This is bull-hooey. I don't care what party they are from...give the funds back.
If these clowns would start working for the people and forget their @#$% campaign funds, we wouldn't be in this mess. I'm so sick and tired of seeing their shock and awe that these funds might be questionable, I could scream. Enough is enough.

Get away from the trough. K-Street should be shut down.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:39 AM
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8. This is getting more screwed up by the day, and BOTH parties are neck-deep in the corruption.
They're all damn crooks, both parties, top to bottom. This is disgusting.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:13 AM
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9. No wonder no one can track where the money is going.
Paging Hemlock Stones! Paging Hemlock Stones!



We need the great defective and his sidekick, Dr. Flotsam.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:18 AM
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13. Rat bastards!
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:43 AM
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17. When will they learn? With the internet this shit hits the fan over and over!
Any Democrats that accept the money should be removed as accepting bribes.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:11 PM
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19. My favorite part of the article:
But House Democratic fundraisers have quietly passed the word that the party's campaign committee will resume accepting them—but down the road, not right now.

The people who "quietly pass the word" on these matters need to be removed first.

:patriot:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:33 PM
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21. Unfortunately the people who "Quietly"
Pass the word, tend to be in the ultimate positons of power.

People like Di Feinstein, whose approval you need to run even as Dog Catcher anywhere in the SF Bay Area.

And I imagine it is her hand choosing the Dem gubernatorial candidates as well. Last governor's race, in 2006, we had an unknown rodent-like guy running against Arnold Schwartzennegger, even though the people had wanted a more charismatic candidate, one who actually would have funded his own race, but the Feinstein "leadership" put the kaboosh on that. I suspect she wanted to keep the situation set up so she herself could run againstt Ahnold this cycle.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 11:46 AM
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18. These are political contributions from INDIVIDUALS, not corporations.
Even a corporate PAC is funded by individuals. It's NOT like a trade group or lobbying firm that obtains its funding as a business expense, directly from member companies. This money comes from individuals who are EMPLOYED by the companies ... and that CAN include hourly employees.

When political campaign contributions are characterized as being "from" some company, it's an obfuscation. Those contributions are bing made by PEOPLE who are employees OF the named corporation.

While some may think it's a distinction without a difference, there's a very material difference when it comes to TARP funds ... unless folks think that such companies should stop paying employee compensation altogether. That'd be ridiculous.

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 05:00 PM
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29. I remember when I worked, they actually had meetings "encouraging"
us hourly employees to donate to republicans. No donation, no raise or promotion.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:14 AM
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46. I have never heard of a company doing that.
The closest thing I have ever encountered is companies trying to ram United Way contributions down employees throats with big company meetings, company goals, etc. But political donations, no.

Did you or anyone ever complain? Was this a large company or a small company?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:47 AM
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48. The did the same thing to us with United Way and The boy Scouts
They never actually never said no donation, no raise or promotion, but that's how it worked.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 01:28 PM
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20. To many of us, the BailOut approval coming just weeks prior to the election
Did seem to indicate that there would be a re-cycling of the monies approved to the various candidates running for office.

Note that both Obama and McCain both voted for the original BailOut.
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:07 PM
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22. WARNING: Democratic representatives had better watch it: they are liable to wake up to a horrendous
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 02:08 PM by Kip Humphrey
backlash from voters and face another round of "throw the bastards out"! What's more, they have damn little time to clean up their acts as the Republicon vultures are circling.



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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:22 PM
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24. The sad thing is, most Americans are no longer Dems or repugs
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 02:23 PM by truedelphi
From a Pew survey last spring

28% of all Americans say that they vote for the Republicans nd consider themselves part of that party.

32% of all Americans say they are Democrats

That leaves a whooping 40% of us outside the box. Sure, maybe 2% of this group are John Birchers, but I suspect the rest are people who want decent government.

The nations that have Univeral Single Payer Health Care, government-supported paid for College, and decent economic policies are all nations that have well established and competitive third parties.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:26 PM
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32. The last sentence of your post makes a very interesting point.
Thanks. I hadn't noticed that before.

:dem:

-Laelth
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 05:58 AM
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42. It does indeed.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 02:17 PM
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23. I don't want to give a damn penny to Politicians let alone Republicans!!!!!!!!!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:54 PM
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27. How much did Gregg get?
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No.23 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 04:58 PM
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28. If you're gonna follow their money, you really need to begin here:
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 05:01 PM by No.23
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 07:22 PM
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30. Real change will not come to Washington until we the people finance their campaigns. Support S. 582
Bernie Sanders has very recently introduced S.582 with Dick Durbin as co-sponsor. It is a bill which would make 15% the maximum allowable credit card interest rate--the maximum rate currently allowed by law at credit unions.

S.582 : A bill to amend the Truth in Lending Act to protect consumers from usury, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Sanders, Bernard (introduced 3/12/2009) Cosponsors (1)

Call or email your senators and ask them to co-sponsor S.582.


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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-22-09 10:40 PM
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33. Most Duers aren't doing that, I'm noticing.
Edited on Sun Mar-22-09 10:46 PM by chill_wind
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:00 AM
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36. Telling n/t
And you are. Thanks.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 05:31 AM
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41. Looks like their Order of Battle was good
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 05:32 AM by formercia
They knew who to send the money to, even before the election. Hmmm.

Seems like the crash wasn't unexpected after all.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 01:57 AM
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35. These people are relentless fools. k*r No wonder w'er in the tank. Excelletn post n/t
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 04:14 AM
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38. The Democratic Party: Pure as the driven slush.
When you get right down to it, why is anybody surprised?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 06:06 AM
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43. No one who's been cognizant for 30 years is surprised by certain folks
We're dealing with the lesser of two evils- and make no mistake, if we've learned anything from the past eight years it's that there is corruption and them there's CORRUPTION.

That said- here's a traceback to the start of this mess- brought to us by certain folks like Steny Hoyer and Chuck Schumer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garn_-_St_Germain_Depository_Institutions_Act

You'd think they'd have learned their lesson- or at least, been held to account by their constituents- but nope. There they are.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 06:39 AM
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44. I'm not surprised. I'm just damn sick and tired of it.
<snip>

The bill is named after its sponsors, Congressman Fernand St. Germain, Democrat of Rhode Island, and Senator Jake Garn, Republican of Utah. The bill had broad support in Congress, with co-sponsors including Charles Schumer and Steny Hoyer.<3> The bill passed overwhelmingly, by a margin of 272-91 in the House.<4>

Title VIII, Alternative Mortgage Transactions, allowed Adjustable rate mortgages <5>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garn_-_St_Germain_Depository_Institutions_Act
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 04:53 AM
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39. Aren't they called "kickbacks?"
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 05:05 AM
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40. Obama should speak out about this - if he wants to show his backbone on the issue

Not saying he doesn't have one, but he should be showing it more.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:08 AM
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45. Got to keep the party from stopping.
:party:
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