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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 08:49 PM
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"The facts don't bear him out" - Obama fires back at Cheney on 60 Minutes...
Dick Cheney and the anti-terror policies of the Bush years have not "made us safer," according to President Barack Obama.

In an interview on Sunday night's 60 Minutes, the president offered a stern response to the former vice president's criticism that Obama has somehow made Americans "less safe."

"... The vice president is eager to defend a legacy that was unsustainable," said Obama, characterizing Cheney's politics as a line of thought which "has done incredible damage to our image and position in the world."

"I fundamentally disagree with Dick Cheney," said Obama. "Not surprisingly. You know, I think that Vice President Cheney has been at the head of a movement whose notion is somehow that we can't reconcile our core values, our constitution, our belief that we don't torture, with our national security interests. I think he's drawing the wrong lesson from history. The facts don't bear him out.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_fires_back_at_Cheney_on_0322.html
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:23 PM
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1. Facts?! FACTS?!?!
Since when do facts drive our political discourse in this country? Has Rush Limbaugh been informed of these so-called "facts"? Where's Drudge's flashing red light and "developing" 80-point headline, discounting the use of "facts" to win an argument? I mean, as that well-known philosopher Homer Simpson once opined, "You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." So why should we all of a sudden start using "facts" to decide who's right and wrong?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:28 PM
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2. Makes sense to me, toss the so-called facts out with the baby *and* the bath water
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