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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:05 AM
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The View

My wife loves this show, and she's not a dumb woman by any stretch of the imagination, but I just don't get it. It's like a bunch of harpies all talking over one another. Am I missing something in the attraction of this show?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:08 AM
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1. The attraction is, that sometimes, they make Hasselback cry. n/t
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:09 AM
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2. I think you're missing the point that they say what's on their
mind no matter who they piss off and, in this day and age, that's refreshing. Yes, they do talk all over each other and that's irritating as Hell, but women love a good cat fight and every once in awhile they have one.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:46 AM
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5. women love a good cat fight! excuse me?
i think men like it more than women . . . otherwise why would so many watch faux news? :evilgrin:

ellen fl
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:09 AM
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3. It's only worth watching to see hasselbeck make some dumbass remark
and the others (mostly Joy but sometimes Whoopie) jump right in the middle of her shit.

If elizabeth left I'd never watch it.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 02:19 PM
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18. You know how to tell that Hasselback said something really dumb?
When even Sherri jumps on her. If you can get Sherri to understand something; it must have been real stupid.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:10 AM
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4. some people like to hear banter --even meaningless banter.
No mystery in that.

Its the same things that attracted people to Seinfield.
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:48 AM
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6. Only good thing is Elisabeth Hasselbeck's good looks. She's hot.
Edited on Tue Mar-24-09 10:49 AM by dem629
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:52 AM
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7. I never understood the attraction of that show. Totally lame.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:58 AM
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8. Women having opinions
and expressing them in public is the attraction. Sad to say that even in 2009 it's still too much of a rarity.

Think about it. Is there any other panel-discussion show that features women talking about the issues of the day?

Yes, they talk over each other and that's irritating.

But, it's the only show where women are not forced to fight with men just to be heard in the public arena. Rachel, if she keeps going, might change that.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 11:13 AM
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9. Isn't it sad that the women we get to hear consist of a celebrity ass-kissing journalist
two stand up comedians, an actress, and a reality show winner?

As far as I am concerned, we still don't have a panel discussion show that features women talking about the issues of the day.

The View is a Disney promotion vehicle, little more. They are, at this moment, discussing a woman who didn't shave under her arms properly. Great discourse!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 12:14 PM
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10. Well, there's that
I still say LINDA ELLERBEE WAS ROBBED!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 12:16 PM
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11. LOL! She sure was.
And they don't seem to be letting many more like her in the door any longer.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 12:18 PM
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13. Good point. Rachel Maddow, Christiane Amanpour, Amy Goodman,
and a guest.

Now that's a panel I'd watch.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 02:14 PM
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17. Actually, a reality show loser
She came in fourth place.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:52 PM
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25. Really?
There is even less of an excuse for her placement on that show now.

Thanks for correcting my misconception.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 01:32 PM
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15. PBS's "To The Contrary"
I don't know if your local PBS station broadcasts it, but it is a panel of just women who discuss the relevant issues of the day. They try for a panel of women from all political spectrums. It's a weekly, not daily, panel show.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 12:17 PM
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12. Harpies?
Yes, I would say you are definitely missing something.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 02:01 PM
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16. Well, um, how would you charactarize it?

Not that there aren't smart people there - Whoopie is no idiot, by any stretch of the imagination - in fact, I have increasing respect for here - and Barbara Wawa is also smart. I can't speak for the others, but they all cross-talk - it's like a bad coffee klatsch thing - which is fine, but it doesn't need to be televised. I don't mind their conversation, but I can't get why anyone wants to watch it.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 02:34 PM
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19. I pretty much agree with your characterization here.
Harpies as a description of women in debate rubs me the wrong way.

You will get the same behavior (people talking over each other) in almost any political discussion. But we rarely hear men called out for the way they sound. Describing the women on the View as Harpies is like calling Hillary "shrill." I think some people are just bothered by a woman's voice when she is asserting herself.

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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:34 PM
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22. There's no equivalent term for men
(not that I don't disagree)

I hate the political talk shows where men are shouting over each other too.

There's just no term for it. I guess you could use "shouting assholes", but is that really any worse that "harpies"?

Come up with one, I'll be glad to use it.

Hey, this could make for a nice thread. What would be the term for men shouting over each other on political talk shows?
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:52 PM
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26. I don't know why there is no equivalent term for men.
I guess its just one of those things that makes you go hmmm. ;-)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 02:40 PM
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20. Expect a sternly worded rebuke from the HADL*
* Harpy Anti-defamation League
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 12:43 PM
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14. Quit watching it many years ago.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 02:46 PM
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21. Oprah Sucks Too
I don't get it either. I am at home all day and could watch these shows, but I'm not that type of woman.

They visit The Hamptons on the weekends and take expensive bio-identical hormones.

Oprah has that gawd awful mansion in California, sprawled over acres and acres of land. It's too much and reeks of greed and excess.

Yuck!
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:35 PM
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23. "Bio-identical hormones"?

What are those?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:42 PM
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24. My favorite Oprah episode
was when she tried to appear interested in the subject of freeganism while she was clicking her Christian Louboutin heels.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:55 PM
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27. I don't watch it very often, but I think it's great.
It's like eavesdropping on a group of women that might be sitting around the lounge at the University, or hanging together on a weekend, or just hanging out. They have different views, and some of them are kind of idiotic at times (Hasselbeck and Jebus told me the world is 6000 years old, for example).

I think they do a lot of good, and are more edgy than 95% of the talk shows on cable news.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 03:57 PM
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28. I think Olbermann described it best when he said it's like a sports talk show.
If you've ever seen "Best Damn Sports Show" or listened to guys blab on the radio, it's no different.

Gender has nothing to do with it; it's too many people in front of a microphone at one time.
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