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ArchieStone1 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:00 PM Original message |
What happens if the judge disagrees with a jury in a trial? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Usually the jury rules on the verdict, guilty or innocent. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Generally, the jury's verdict is final. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I don't think that's true. It's possible for a judge to set aside "guilty" |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. But he/she needs 'cause' to set it aside, I believe. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Absolutely not! The jury's decision can be set aside by the trial judge. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. The judge is the moderator. Only the jury determines the verdict. nt |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Not true. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. True. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. A judge can set aside a jury verdict in both civil and criminal cases |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Thank you for that. I was misinformed. By a judge, no less. nt. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. judges are very hesitant to set aside a verdict |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. My jury duty case was far less monumental: Alleged theft of a bicycle. nt |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Perhaps he needs to change careers and become a prosecutor?? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. More like a judgemental judge... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. He didn't want to invade the province of the jury |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. JNOVs are basically a safety valve. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. In a civil case he or she can set aside the verdict. |
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ArchieStone1 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. ok thanks to both |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. it depends |
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friedgreentomatoes (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. Jury is final |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. The judge can set aside a civil verdict, or a criminal verdict of Guilty. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. The judge can issue a "judgment notwithstanding the verdict" |
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ArchieStone1 (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. cool |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 05:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. why? anything specific going on? inquiring minds and all... n/t |
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friedgreentomatoes (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. aaah! |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. Varies by case and by jurisdiction. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. wrong wrong wrong |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Absolutely correct. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. yes |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 06:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. The reason a newspaper will report "innocent" when the actual verdict is "not guilty" |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. That's correct but if the jury does not find the defendent guilty |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. false |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. in re oj |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Criminal standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 06:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. What do you take to be the difference between... |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. A judge can set aside a verdict in a civil case, though. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
12. The judge gives the sentence |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. He can set aside the verdict. n/t |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. As I understand it, the judge can issue a "directed verdict" -- overturning a jury's verdict |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, you're talking about judgement NOV |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Typically, defendant moves for a Directed Verdict at the conclusion of the plaintiff's case. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. A judge can set aside the jury finding in a criminal case if he |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. Louise Woodward |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-28-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I was living near Boston at that time, followed the case, and couldn't believe the judge reduced... |
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Boomerang Diddle (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
26. The judge can overrule the jury. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Would that be a mistrial? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-29-09 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. The correct answer is: The judge can set aside the verdict & order a new trial, or enter a JNOV. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
39. In some states, the judge can override the jury's verdict - I don;t know |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. A judge can't convict someone over the jury say so but he can |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
44. The judge decides the law; the jury decides the facts |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-30-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. The judge is master on matters of law, and the jury is master on matters of fact. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-31-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I'm not sure, but I think that the standard is... |
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