Pray you chose wisely, cuz once in office, they're just gonna do whatever the fuck they want

I'm starting to feel just as "steamrolled" by this administration as the last
:shrug:

Hope this helps.

to bad there are other people in the US who are equally important and have an equal vote. It gets in the way of your own personal president you can elect with your single all important vote.

I disagree pretty profoundly with some of his decisions, but I think he's a principled, intelligent ad reflective person. Certainly not adjectives I'd ever have used about bushy.

at this point I've lost my ability to trust blindly.

that's not a good idea.

How do you know they're keeping something secret for your own good, if you can't see what's being hidden from you?

Please tell me when President Obama gave up secrecy. Did I miss that executive order?

IMO it's a very lazy and dangerous thing to do.

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Are you saying Obama is as bad as Bush?
How is Obama steamrolling you JUST like Bush. What is the equivalence?

pursuing justice for Bush crimes - Cover and continuation of FISA - The wars justified and extended - Bailing out corporate criminals on our dime - No national health care...

You're right; what's not to like?

at least not in my state.

With the exception of healthcare reform, the other issues I mentioned reflect their desired positions.

Okey-doke--you really ARE full of yourself (Mohammed and Jesus were some pretty adept politicos, btw).

Unfortunately for the knee-jerk left, we have a political system in the USA. It may be slow and cumbersome, but it's a fact of life. Throw in the media, Republicans, and the majority public opinion too.
Posters who have unreal expectations can write until their fingers are bloody, but it won't change the facts of the situation. You are just pissing in the wind.

on all issues?

Let me write down the date of this ground breaking discovery. :eyes:

Next you'll tell me there is no Santa. Pssssh. I don't think so, Santa is REAL!

If you really and truly believe this administration compares in the slightest with the last, you probably weren't paying attention.

Most on DU do, let me ask you a question. Why is it that you think it's OK for a man who probably doesn't even know who you are to tell you he doesn't believe you be able to get married?

You do realize that's President Obama's position on gay marriage.

If he actually thinks that, then he's a total asshole for thinking his personal beliefs are good enough to make life altering decisions for you.
If he doesn't actually think that, then he's a total asshole to play politics with life altering decisions, again, without actually even knowing you.

If he does know you by some chance, that makes it even more fucked up.

Why should total strangers be able to tell someone who they can and cannot marry, as long at it is fully consensual?

I have the flag because I strongly support gay rights. I live in the first state that legalized same-sex marriage. I fought for it. And I handed out flowers at City Hall in Boston to newly wedded couples.

I do not agree with Obama's stance on same-sex marriage. He is still light years away from Bush.

I'm sure you'll rip me now for not supporting gay rights enough. I don't much care what you think. My friends know me and know where I stand.

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And are you one of those people who claim Obama and Bush are the same person?

Obviously Obama does not = Bush. They're not even on the same planet as leaders or human beings. I just feel we're still going in the wrong direction on many issues, and I don't feel any more empowered to effect change.

Or did you want people to mock you for some reason?

It's a flaw:shrug:

You're right. Plus, the Repuke damage of the last 30 years is currently here in the form of a depression the press and the govt. refuse to call by its real name. Even the actual unemployment rate isn't told, because real numbers of anything have never been told in this country. I'd wager, for example, that 1/3 of Miami, Florida, is unemployed, if not more, and yet no one is saying a word. Nor did they in the past. Thank God we've got a man in office who wants clarity. Everything isn't yet clear, but after living through darkness, secretiveness, and fascist, punitive furtiveness, I'm glad I have Obama.

Also, if you mean that he is not going against capitalists, I think he's a capitalist.

I'm far far more left wing than Obama, but you know what? After having a total pig in office (the Cheney-Bush creature), and after living through decades of pigs, from Reagan to the most recent pig, Obama seems like a heavenly dream.

Sure, he's not making decisions the way I would, but we are encouraging him by sending him e-mail, writing commentary, sharing information about how we'd prefer things be done, etc. I think we're keeping him leaning more left than otherwise.

Another thing, not all left wingers think alike. I'll bet we are both equally left wing, and we might disagree on issues.

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You're right, he's a god compared to the parade of A-holes we've had running this country. I guess I need to cool my jets a bit. Thanks Sarah.

Sarah Palin.

let's just think about that one...:scared:
Also.

Obama is in no way like that asshat George W. Bush.
Why don't you spell out why you feel "steamrolled"?

Here's what the poster doesn't like:
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"pursuing justice for Bush crimes - Cover and continuation of FISA - The wars justified and extended - Bailing out corporate criminals on our dime - No national health care..."
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Those are reasonable concerns, don't you think? It's up to the citizens to make enough noise so the administration 'gets it'. Being better than Bush isn't a great recommendation. Who wouldn't be better than Bush? Even McCain would be better than Bush. Maybe not Palin. Being better than Bush isn't a high marker.

I want Obama to honor his promises. He has begun to do so in many instances, but this FISA thing bothers me. Asking for a whole boatload of money to...do what in Afghanistan? They don't have a government so who is the USA supporting? Blind war is stupid.
Giving so much tax money to so many downright crooks with not enough safeguards bothers me.
Bringing health care to every one doesn't look like it will happen.
I like that he is trying to bring the nations of the world to cooperation on various issues. Beginning the closure of Gitmo is good, shutting down secret torture chambers is a big step in the right direction.
I like what he has done concerning Cuba but I think we should get rid of the trade embargo.
It seems there has been discussion with Spain on the prosecution of some of the Bush administration crooks. That's good. Why not do it here?
I don't like that he has kept/appointed many Bushies to his administration, and he went back on his word about hiring lobbyists in his administration. Bad.
We, as citizens need to be aware of what is going on with our government and yell like banshees if we see something that seems dangerous to the country or against the Constitution. It's our duty.


Citizens stating concerns isn't a bad thing. Blindly supporting everything a President does IS.

especially FISA and not investigating the many crimes of the Bush administration. I also HAVE a huge problem with his stance gay marriage, and have spoken out against it quite a bit.
I do love that he is improving our image around the world, closing Gitmo and truly ending torture. And it is a HUGE thrill to listen to him give a speech without feeling like throwing up...also a thrill to see that he can meet with heads of state without embarrassing us.

I don't know how you arrive at the idea that I blindly support anyone. I can assure you that I do not.

that you don't get to choose your favorite guy/gal and automatically install them huh? Unfortunately a few other people get to vote and sometimes you don't get everything you want.

Who didn't? That doesn't mean I can't take issue with what's going on.

to the Bush near-apocolypse is not just hyperbole, it's downright mindfuckingly stupid.

I'm willing to be patient.

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I'll never learn. Just when I think a politician is different from all the rest, he/she proves me wrong. No matter who they are, the're all lying f-wads. All fundamentally the same, all maintaining and protecting one another and the status quo.

That's pretty grandiose. Obama is not the Messiah you were seeking. He is the leader of a big, big country in which everybody wants something and nobody gets everything. Thank God the vast majority in the US are mature and reasonable in their expectations of this man who is working his ass off for us.

1. Thinking a person should be able to control their own life
or
2. A person they've never met, and probably never will should be able to make life altering decisions "for them."

I don't know, I think it's pretty grandiose a single person thinks he can make decisions for 300 million people, but hey, maybe that's just me.

This is the same train of thought that leads to the "don't bother voting, they're all the same anyway" meme.

...certain social funding, NOT the National $ecurity State ruse, obeying corporate pay masters, and feeding the war machine.

1. Do you think President Obama knows the names of every person in the Armed Forces?

I would suggest that no one person can know the names of over a million people.

2. If this man cannot even know their names, how can he possibly make life and death decisions for them?

I think it's just the most extreme absurdity in our system.

3. Would you let someone who doesn't even know your name send you off to die in a battle, if they just walked up to you on a street?

I doubt it, no one in their right minds would. However, everyone is under this threat. All young men in America must register for a draft, a process that's exactly what I just described, with a few differences. Young women are too, if the shit really hits the fan, they're coming after women too.

4. Why should anyone be able to have this power?

I suggest that even in the total absence of a draft, or a draft registration system, this power is outrageous for volunteers.

I care about this, because I like every other guy, had to register to make it easier for another person we don't know to send us off to death, just in case they really fuck up and kill off all the volunteers.

I'm not comparing Obama to Bush :eyes: I'm just saying it seems like after you pull the lever there's not much you can do but sit back and go for the ride. Like it or not.

things would of been even better with the GOP back in charge! Why not just go and join the Freepers!!

Not long ago, several people here were pissing and moaning that they found him too willing to cave in to demands. Now he's "steamrolling."

It's obvious that no matter what Obama or his admin do, people will complain. So he may as well do just exactly as he pleases and all of you who are on auto-whine can kiss his ass and live with it.

Obama has been amazingly close to sticking with EXACTLY what he promised on the campaign.

The amount of change that has occurred in just 3 months has been astounding.


The fact that you haven't gotten EVERYTHING YOU WANT in that short of time is a reflection on you and your impatience of a 10-year-old than it is on him.

It's a 4 year term. Washington doesn't move in an instant.


Quit being a child.

I don't have to pray that we chose wisely. The handful of policy disagreements that I have with Obama thus far are a pittance when compared to the the idea of President McCain and Vice-President Palin.

This should go without saying. Why am I having to say it?

...but I still have hope that our system of government will one day open itself up to more direct participation from the little guy whose vote is the backbone of this nation. I gotta have faith.