Thom Hartmann: "Somebody find Ross Perot and give him a medal."

Elwood P Dowd

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:32 PM
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Thom Hartmann: "Somebody find Ross Perot and give him a medal."

During a discussion about the destruction of our economy through fake free trade, tax policies, etc..

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anonymous171

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:33 PM
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1. Could you please define "Fake Free Trade" for me?

Thanks.

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angstlessk

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:36 PM
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3. fake as in 'free'..it is not free it COSTS jobs in America...

remember Ross and his prediction of that 'giant sucking sound will be the sound of jobs being sucked out of the US of A'...and he was correct (this was about NAFTA)

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Mojambo

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:37 PM
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6. Free for capital. A fucking locked prison door for labor. n/t

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Elwood P Dowd

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:41 PM
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8. NAFTA, CAFTA, and all these other so called free trade deals are not

David Ricardo's free trade. They're outsourcing/investment scams. It's not free trade when we give trading partners 15 years to lower their tariffs and we lower ours almost immediately. It's not free trade when our trading partners put a 20-30 percent VAT on our goods, yet we have zero VAT on their goods. It's not free trade to move labor/capital out of the US just so greedy CEOs and investors can make a fortune by firing $20.00 an hour American workers and paying Asian workers 20 cents an hour, along with avoiding consumer safety and environmental laws.

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anonymous171

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:48 PM
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13. That's what I thought.

Thanks for the info. :hi:

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BrklynLiberal

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:33 PM
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2. Who would have guessed that in this day and age, Ross Perot seems sane!!!!!

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meegbear

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:36 PM
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4. That crazy aunt in the cellar finally got out

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sui generis

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:36 PM
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5. I attended a charity benefit cocktail party with Mr. Perot two weeks ago

funny that.

I don't think he does joolery. :P

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Mojambo

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:38 PM
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7. I voted for him.

Even back then as a green 18 year old I saw the scam that was to be "free" trade.

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Viva_La_Revolution

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:44 PM
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10. He was my first vote too, for the same reason. nt

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Mist

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:45 PM
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11. THE biggest disappointment of the Clinton admin: NAFTA. I was stunned when he passed it. I've grown

up a lot since then!

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Elwood P Dowd

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:48 PM
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12. I didn't vote for him in 1996 because he sold us out with NAFTA

in 1993 and GATT/WTO in 1994.

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BR_Parkway

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:54 PM
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14. You and me both

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RDANGELO

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Tue Apr-14-09 02:02 PM
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15. So did I in 96. n/t

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Maat

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Tue Apr-14-09 03:19 PM
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18. I voted for Perot, also.

Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 03:21 PM by Maat

I knew he was right about the "giant sucking sound," and I knew that the head honchos of both parties really didn't give a darn about my future (save for the Dems being better about certain social issues, such as choice).

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C_U_L8R

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Tue Apr-14-09 01:44 PM
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9. There certainly is a giant sucking sound

Unfortunately, it's the teabaggers.

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Larkspur

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Tue Apr-14-09 02:48 PM
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16. Ross was right about free trade but his son was profiting off of

free trade when Ross was running for Prez. That's how Gore undermined Perot's public opposition to free trade.

Note: I'm not a pro-free trader, but Ross Perot was hypocritical about it. I prefer not to use Perot when discussing the disadvantages free trade brings America.

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Uzybone

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Tue Apr-14-09 02:54 PM
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17. I am not old enough to remember 92? Why was Perot considered a kook?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Ross_Perot.htm

Is there more to the story?

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