My conservative buddy in Georgia says the tea-bagging is really a front for the fair tax initiative.

grahamhgreen

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Wed Apr-15-09 01:41 PM
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My conservative buddy in Georgia says the tea-bagging is really a front for the fair tax initiative.

The fair tax shifts the tax burdon to the poor and middle class, of course.

It was started here in GA by Radio dude Neil Boortz and one of our reps.

I have a counter proposal, BTW, called the "NO TAX" - in which we eliminate all personal income tax on people earning under 500k per year and only tax the wealthy and corporations.

What Obama claims he's going to do is increase taxes on the wealthy and Corp's in order to pay back the massive deficit he's running up.

So the (un)fair tax is a perfect rebuttal to his plan.

It must be stopped.

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SoCalNative

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Wed Apr-15-09 01:43 PM
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1. Hmmm...

Edited on Wed Apr-15-09 01:44 PM by SoCalNative

"I have a counter proposal, BTW, called the "NO TAX" - in which we eliminate all personal income tax on people earning under 500k per year and only tax the wealthy and corporations."

You mean the way it USED to be, when Federal Income Tax was first instituted?

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grahamhgreen

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Wed Apr-15-09 04:45 PM
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11. Think of how much easier it would be to collect taxes on only 5% of the poulation instead of 95%!

This would increase the efficiency of the IRS a thousand fold.

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JuniperLea

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Wed Apr-15-09 01:44 PM
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2. Interesting how they can bamboozle the village serfs...

To protest until they get a tax increase.

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frylock

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Wed Apr-15-09 04:37 PM
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10. fuckin rubes..

there's one born every minute.

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sinkingfeeling

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Wed Apr-15-09 02:00 PM
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3. I agree. I've seen several pictures of signs with 'Fair Tax' on them.

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Odin2005

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Wed Apr-15-09 02:40 PM
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4. I believe the term is "Astroturf".

"Astroturf" meaning a fake "grass-roots" movement secretly funded by rich elites.

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applegrove

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Wed Apr-15-09 02:48 PM
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5. Rich people using poor people to fight tax increases so they don't have to pay their share.

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Stagecoach

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Wed Apr-15-09 03:06 PM
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7. That's what gets me

This is basically the wealthy saying to these protesters...."Help me get my taxes lowered and you pay more to make up for my shortfall.....this will be good for you! This will allow you to become wealthy like me"

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bullwinkle428

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Wed Apr-15-09 02:58 PM
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6. Boortz has been pushing this shit forever - he really has lots

of his sheeple bamboozled into thinking his proposal has any real semblance of "fairness"!

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grahamhgreen

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Wed Apr-15-09 04:14 PM
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8. I actually had the opportunity to speak to Boortz in person

I asked, "So Neil, what's the bottom line, will my taxes go up or down under your plan".

He said over-exuberantly , like a used car-salesman on line for the kill, "that all depends on how much you save!".

Which said to me my taxes would go up under his craptastic plan.

Basically, his plan is a consumption tax, and since poor and middle-class people spend more of their income oon consumables, then we suffer a higher tax burdon.

His plan does NOT tax the purchases of stock, bonds, or even commodities, which the wealthy buy and trade often.

So, if you buy a cup of coffee, you pay this new (35% !!!) tax.

However, if you buy a 10 tons of coffee - you pay NO tax!!!!

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Hugabear

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Wed Apr-15-09 04:17 PM
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9. Check out the thread I just started about this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5463349&mesg_id=5463349

Blows a huge hole in his argument - and that's even if you take his plan at face value. I've read that many economists predict that the actual sales tax would have to be somewhere between 30-60%.

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Xenotime

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Wed Apr-15-09 05:27 PM
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12. tea bagging is a front for RW terrorists...

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