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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:52 AM
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The Emails the White House Doesn’t Want You to See ((Mother Jones)
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 07:53 AM by kpete
The Emails the White House Doesn’t Want You to See

By Dan Schulman

March 30, 2007
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Instead of responding to an email account administered by the Republican National Committee (sralston@georgewbush.com) as he had intended, he sent the message to Ralston’s White House address. The following day Abramoff was alerted to his error by a colleague, Kevin Ring, who’d spoken to a White House official to whom Abramoff’s request had been forwarded. “She said it is better to not put this stuff in writing in their email system because it might actually limit what they can do to help us, especially since there could be lawsuits, etc.,” Ring wrote. Abramoff responded swiftly: “Dammit. It was sent to Susan on her rnc pager and was not supposed to go into the WH system.”

The significance of this intriguing exchange, which was among thousands of emails reviewed by investigators for the House Government Reform Committee as part of an extensive investigation into Abramoff, might have gone unrecognized had it not been for another scandal, this one involving the abrupt firings of eight U.S. Attorneys. As the controversy intensified in early March and hearings were held, the Department of Justice was forced to release thousands of documents, including email exchanges between Alberto Gonzales’ chief of staff Kyle Sampson, who resigned in mid-March, and Rove deputy J. Scott Jennings.

Here too was evidence that White House officials were conducting business using RNC email accounts, domains such as gwb43.com and rnchq.org. But why? For one, as Abramoff was attempting to do, it is a way of bypassing the White House server and skirting its automatic archiving function, insuring that potentially damaging or incriminating emails will not be preserved for posterity by the National Archives, or worse, come to light through the efforts of a federal prosecutor or congressional investigator. In a March 15 letter to Henry Waxman’s Government Reform Committee, the watchdog group Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington noted that this practice might violate the 1978 Presidential Records Act, which governs how the papers of presidents and their staffs are to be preserved, and urged an investigation. “This refreshed our memory about what we’d seen in the Abramoff emails,” says one Waxman aide.


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But the email controversy may be significance not only to historians who will pour over the Bush papers in years to come, but to others who are working to provide present-day accountability. Indeed, among other people, these revelations could be of particular interest to a certain federal prosecutor who recently won the conviction of the Vice President’s former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, on charges of obstructing an investigation into the leak of Valerie Wilson’s identity. Contained in the lengthy docket of U.S.A. v. Libby is a January 23, 2006 letter from special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to Libby’s defense team, who were then jousting over classified discovery. In it, Fitzgerald advises Libby’s attorneys, “in an abundance of caution,” that “we have learned that not all email of the Office of Vice President and the Executive Office of the President for certain time periods in 2003 was preserved through the normal archiving process on the White House computer system.” Though the prosecution later received an additional 250 pages of records from the vice president’s office, it remains unclear what the true nature of this “archiving problem” was or whether Fitzgerald received all of the documents that may have been relevant to his investigation. (Fitzgerald’s office declined to comment after being provided with a detailed request.) Perhaps Fitzgerald, along with other investigators who have sought White House records, was looking in the wrong place. He may want to check the RNC’s servers.

more at:
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2007/03/white_house_emails.html
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:05 AM
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1. kick
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:13 AM
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2. The unraveling is begin
:hi:*
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:25 PM
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12. Yes, but will anything come of it?
They have so stacked the deck, I wonder if it's un-doable. Here's hoping it's not too late.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 10:47 PM
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14. It's seems the defenders of * are getting to be few and far in between
And even if them defenders of the * do want to protect the image of * they have little leg to stand on. I wouldn't know if what comes after is much better, but kind of doubt all those kooks who supported * originally could find much worse and still be able to make it work :shrug:


As a message, the * clan's brand of conservativeness sounds like a dying cause
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:18 AM
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3. “This refreshed our memory about what we’d seen in the Abramoff emails,” says one Waxman aide.
Ya gotta love it!

I am hoping beyond all hope that Waxman gets his hands on the RNC servers. Can you IMAGINE what's on them?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 10:57 PM
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15. Seems to me that as soon as they found indication they had been using them
to skirt the law they should have been impounded. Federal Marshals should have showed up that night.

they can scream all they want that party communications are private - when they used the servers for government business, they gave up any privacy.

fuck them
all of them
the degree to which this calls for RICO indictments grows by the second.

And if they can't get a federal prosecutor to bring such charges, then the Congress has to do something extraordinary.

The constitution has been violated repeatedly, the law has been violated repeatedly, and the perps are hunkered down in the White House. We do not have any precedent, not any prescribed procedure for dealing with this. Impeaching one person, or two, or three, is inadequate. We need the entire executive branch padlocked!

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:20 AM
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4. all of this proves that they *knew* they were pushing legal boundaries
and it wasn't, as they claim, "business as usual" (ala all Administrations do this...)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 08:57 AM
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5. K & R nm
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:07 AM
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6. You've hit the motherload of scandals
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:11 PM
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7. Talk about a can of worms. This may reopen older investigations.
While they were spying on us, they were hiding from us.

They are pure concentrated evil, these creeps.

Was Rove hatched from some mighty exoskeletal beast? He started out as some kid wearing glasses. He ended up a bald, fat, slithering nightcrawler.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:51 PM
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8. Older investigations, e.g., vote tampering.
Would love to see communiques about THAT.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 02:31 AM
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19. yah, I'll bet the election nite "monitoring" communications went thru the RNC
servers





(pic borrowed from bleever's post)
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 04:54 PM
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9. K&R
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 05:18 PM
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10. Who here thinks the RNC Servers are still intact?
Probably the same folk who still believe in the Tooth Fairy.

So where do we go from here?
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:21 PM
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11. The servers may not be intact, but there are frequently off-site backup tapes
Running a commercial web site involves saving data off the system for disaster/recovery on a regular basis.

One aspect of a full blown disaster/recovery system is storing backup data in another physical location. These tapes may still be intact even if the crooks in question have formatted the disks on the web servers.

Also, forensic computer scientists can find file fragments and sometimes recover entire files after they have been "deleted" from a hard drive.

I don't believe in the tooth fairy, but I do know that wiping a computer system completely clean is like trying to clean up all the blood at a murder scene. There usually will be tell-tale clues.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 09:26 PM
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13. I wonder if Waxman could get these messages pulled out of the NSA database
The one that has all internet traffic saved somewhere...

That would be the funniest way possible for BushCo to fall, by using NSA captures of these emails.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:25 AM
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17. ROFL! Would it ever. The irony of Justice. ....n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:54 PM
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16. Fitzgerald did leave the door open does the emails Repub
server open the door to cook Rove
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 12:26 AM
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18. k(pete)nr! ...n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 05:51 AM
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20. We've given them plenty of rope
When will they hang themselves?
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