Dumb question here. Re:hotel killer on craigslist.

stop the bleeding

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:09 PM
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Dumb question here. Re:hotel killer on craigslist.

I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed etc.

Wouldn't law enforcement be able to track the history of this guy's internet activity? Or why are they so sure it's him? Again don't flame me for being late to the party and TYIA for anyone who responds in kind.

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Tangerine LaBamba

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:14 PM
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1. Could they?

What if he used different computers in different places? I don't know - I'm as in the dark on this as you are.

I keep reading that he's a "medical student," but I don't ever see what school he's allegedly attending. The coverage of this has been spotty, at best ...........

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xchrom

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:21 PM
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3. they said they used his IPs on his computer -- i believe it was. nt

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stop the bleeding

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:24 PM
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6. That is what I'm looking for, IP evidence etc. TY nt

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bicentennial_baby

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:31 PM
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9. He goes to BU

They tracked his IP, and had him under surveillance for a while. In his apt., they found a gun, zip ties, and duct tape, I think. He lives in my city.

If you're interested. the Globe online has pretty decent coverage.

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stop the bleeding

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:40 PM
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11. TY. nt

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Tangerine LaBamba

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:49 PM
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12. Thanks n/t

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Xithras

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:15 PM
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2. I'm not familiar with the case but...

Generally speaking, LEO's cannot trace your Internet activity unless they are specifically monitoring your connection. When you hear news reports about evidence of "suspect X visited site Y recently", the police are merely looking at the evidence still on their local computer. That cache is typically short term, and can be erased by just about anyone (my computer clears its file cache every time I close the browser).

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endarkenment

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:29 PM
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8. oh erased it did you? think again

Hardly any data is actually erased. The disk storage might be recycled to other purposes or marked as free for other uses, but that generally does not mean 'erased'. Even if you use programs that explicitly rewrite freed storage, computer forensics can reconstruct some portion of that data.

Your local police might not be able to trace your internet activity after the fact, but the NSA can and does as it is basically recording all the connections everyone is making with everyone else, if not the content of those connections.

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Xithras

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Tue Apr-21-09 06:22 PM
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15. lol, we're not all that stupid.

On my computer, erased things are erased to DOD spec. The NSA couldn't recover crap (before you argue with me, I used to run a technology consulting company and computer hardening was one of our offered services).

And no, the NSA isn't recording the Internet. There are millions of connections being made on the Internet in various protocols every second, and hundreds of terabytes of data flowing around the nation every minute. And that's just domestic traffic. There isn't a drive array on Earth that could store that much information for more than a few hours.

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endarkenment

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Wed Apr-22-09 06:43 AM
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17. The NSA is in fact recording connection information.

This has been widely reported for years. They do not record every bit of data, they do record who connects to whom, and that data goes into some huge database. They also snarf content as well, also widely reported for years now, looking for whatever it is they think are interesting markers, of all phone and internet traffic.

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patriotvoice

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Tue Apr-21-09 07:53 PM
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16. See "ATA Security Exposed" in the latest 2600.

http://store.2600.com/spring2009.html

Encrypt your file system and decommission your drives with ATA secure erase as explained there. Oh, and don't cache. And use an Internet anonymizer. And please never do it from your house.

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geckosfeet

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:21 PM
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4. It seems like they have of LOT of just this kind of evidence.

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JonLP24

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:23 PM
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5. Not sure

But I find it inappropriate for prosecuters to hold press conferences before a single witness has been called.

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notesdev

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:27 PM
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7. To me, that's a sign

that the prosecutor has a specious case. Any prosecutor with honor or integrity will hold his trials in court, not in front of the media.

Shades of the Duke 3...

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Politicalboi

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:38 PM
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10. He was also using

His Blackberry or phone either at or near the location of the murder and there is video of someone who they say is him at the hotel. Plus the woman who he corresponded too has evidence in her computer. He's sunk. Electronic DNA. And who knows they may have his DNA at the crime scene.

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DeepBlueC

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:51 PM
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13. they traced an email account he opened the day before to set up the date

You are absolutely correct.

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Lex

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Tue Apr-21-09 05:52 PM
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14. From the article I read

Conley said Markoff obtained a new e-mail account the day before meeting with Brisman and investigators traced it back to a computer IP address, which led them to Markoff's Quincy address.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/19240698/detail.html

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