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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 11:45 PM
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The OLC "torture memos": thoughts from a dissenter By Philip Zelikow
http://shadow.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/04/21/the_olc_torture_memos_thoughts_from_a_dissenter


By Philip Zelikow

I first gained access to the OLC memos and learned details about CIA's program for high-value detainees shortly after the set of opinions were issued in May 2005. I did so as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's policy representative to the NSC Deputies Committee on these and other intelligence/terrorism issues. In the State Department, Secretary Rice and her Legal Adviser, John Bellinger, were then the only other individuals briefed on these details. In compliance with the security agreements I have signed, I have never discussed or disclosed any substantive details about the program until the classified information has been released.

Having been the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, I'm aware of what some of these captives did. The Commission wondered how captives were questioned (for details on that, see this previously disclosed report), and the matter is now the subject of a federal criminal investigation by special prosecutor John Durham. Nonetheless, the evidence against most -- if not all -- of the high-value detainees remains damning. But the issue is not about who or what they are. It is about who or what we are.

Based on what had earlier been released, I have offered some general views on "Legal Policy for a Twilight War." With the release of these OLC memos, I can add three more sets of comments, each of which could be developed at much greater length.

1. The focus on water-boarding misses the main point of the program.

Which is that it was a program. Unlike the image of using intense physical coercion as a quick, desperate expedient, the program developed "interrogation plans" to disorient, abuse, dehumanize, and torment individuals over time.

The plan employed the combined, cumulative use of many techniques of medically-monitored physical coercion. Before getting to water-boarding, the captive had already been stripped naked, shackled to ceiling chains keeping him standing so he cannot fall asleep for extended periods, hosed periodically with cold water, slapped around, jammed into boxes, etc. etc. Sleep deprivation is most important.

2. Measuring the value of such methods should be done professionally and morally before turning to lawyers.

A professional analysis would not simply ask: Did they tell us important information? Congress is apparently now preparing to parse the various claims on this score -- and that would be quite valuable.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 11:56 PM
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1. Zelikow a "dissenter"? BWA-ha-ha... You've got to be kidding.
That's like the PNAC saying they are "shocked...shocked I tell you" that someone would be crude enough to say America needs "a new pearl harbor."

Zelikow? ZELIKOW? Next up: George H.W. Bush reveals that it never dawned on him that the CIA is a covert organization.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 11:58 PM
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2. Getting out in front of the shit-storm..
this could be fun.
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