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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:51 AM
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They can't handle the truth.
Republicans are in a bind. They know torture is evil. They know torture doesn't work. Yet, they know that their Party was criminal in the creation of a program to torture prisoners we had captured in our "war on terror". What tormented souls they must be?

They continue to make it a political issue. They do not want to discuss the morality or criminality of their actions. It is simply a Democrat vs Republican "issue". It has nothing to do with them burning in hell for their depraved actions.

They are now the ones being tortured. Their consciences must be heavily burdened with this knowledge? How would you feel if you had to defend torture? They cannot handle this truth that has finally been exposed for all the world to see.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:54 AM
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1. Screw 'em
And quite frankly, it really doesn't matter whether the person is a republican or Democrat, if they authorized torture, they are criminals and should be treated as such.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:55 AM
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2. Reptiles do not have consciences. However, if I were a crafty Republican I'd drag Pelosi
and Democrats into the situation by spreading the bullshit "they signed off on it" crap.

It's a great strategy for spreading actual culpability away from actual culprits.
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rusty fender Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:07 AM
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3. It sounds to me like most Republics think that the torture the Bush
administration did wasn't really torture. I often listen to a local p.m. radio show that originates in ABQ. The host is a right-winger libertarian type who has been focusing on the release of the torture memos. The host believes that Obama has committed treason by releasing the memos, and so do his listeners, but most of the callers to the show don't believe that waterboarding is torture. These teabaggin' Republics don't have a conscience. They are saying that the Obama admin is redefining torture by calling waterboarding torture.

There's no reasoning with these people.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:12 AM
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4. That is the way they rationalize if....
but they know. Pretending it is only a political matter only betrays their confusion.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:28 AM
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8. we should ask why Ashcroft resigned, (along with others) why
McCain called waterboarding torture- here's a good article listing various military personel who objected:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11231.htm

some interesting Cheney quotes as well.


:hi:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:13 AM
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5. Being against torture should be an American standard, not a Dem/Rep
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 10:14 AM by Bluerthanblue
one. Maybe we should remind them of that-?

And it was done by America, regardless of our objections. The only way for America to redeem ourselves is to show the world that we realize we were wrong, and the only way to do that is to hold those who authorized it, accountable. THEY KNEW BETTER.
I submit John Ashcroft's own words: "history will not judge this kindly".

You make a very good point Kentuck this really isn't a "political" issue- it's an American one.

:hi:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:14 AM
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6. Selling TOWS to Iran.
Same rationale.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:14 AM
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7. People who serve the aims of power and empire don't give a shit if it's illegal/immoral
It's always been that way
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