Do you think we will obtain convictions against Bush Officials for torture memos?

TheCoxwain

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:36 AM
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Poll question: Do you think we will obtain convictions against Bush Officials for torture memos?

Not rubukes, not Censures ...BUT CONVICTIONS

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NightWatcher

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:37 AM
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1. from Holder's DoJ? Nope.

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baldguy

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:38 AM
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2. We would in a perfect world, but this isn't.

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ThomWV

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:40 AM
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3. If they get to court, then the answer is yes. The trick is getting to court.

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jobycom

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:44 AM
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4. Yeah, sure. As soon as we convict Andrew Jackson for the Trail of Tears. nt

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HereSince1628

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:45 AM
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5. Who is we? What is a conviction?

They've been tried and convicted on these pages by us.

US courts will never see a case brought to trial.

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Echo In Light

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Wed Apr-22-09 11:50 AM
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6. Only if it's tightly crafted/scripted toward predetermined results that mimic "accountability"

M$M will spin and sell accordingly

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corruptmewithpower

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Wed Apr-22-09 12:05 PM
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7. Justice for crimes against humanity is a rare occurance.

The International Military Tribunal was opened on 18 October 1945, in the Palace of Justice in Nuremberg. The first session was presided over by the Soviet judge, Nikitchenko. The prosecution entered indictments against 24 major war criminals and six criminal organizations - the leadership of the Nazi party, the Schutzstaffel (SS) and Sicherheitsdienst (SD), the Gestapo, the Sturmabteilung (SA) and the High Command of the German armed forces (OKW).
The indictments were for:
Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of crime against peace
Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression and other crimes against peace
War crimes
Crimes against humanity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

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The2ndWheel

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Wed Apr-22-09 12:11 PM
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8. As long as the US is an independent country, and the biggest kid on the block, no

If there were a real international/global system that the US answered to, then that would be a different story. However, as long as the US Government can choose to bomb/torture/sanction/whatever anyone it wants to, and no entity can actually stop it from doing so, then the answer is no.

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OHdem10

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Wed Apr-22-09 12:26 PM
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9. Trying to sue someone because of their analysis and personal judgement

is going to take one heck of a barrel of imagination and creativity.

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TheCoxwain

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Wed Apr-22-09 12:44 PM
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10. If you can prove that the opinion was shaped with the INTENT to enabling torture - then I

Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 12:48 PM by TheCoxwain

think we have a case. Evidence DOJ can cite is that defendants ignored previous US cases in Vietnam where Convictions were brought against Water Boarding ( I heard this on WNYC - an NPR station)

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seemslikeadream

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Wed Apr-22-09 12:46 PM
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11. maybe not in this country

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