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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:48 PM
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Trio Of Senators Ask Obama Not To Prosecute Bush Attorneys (MCCAIN, GRAHAM, LIEBERMAN)
Trio Of Senators Ask Obama Not To Prosecute Bush Attorneys
By Brian Beutler - April 22, 2009, 2:02PM

Senators John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Joe Lieberman have sent a letter to President Obama urging him not to prosecute Bush Justice Department officials who wrote legal rationales for torture. "he Department of Justice is currently conducting an internal ethics review of the OLC memos," the trio write, "but that is a quite a different matter from making legal advice with which we may disagree into a crime."

This has been a common refrain from these three for some time, but this letter belies the facts that the use of torture predated the memos that were written to retroactively justify it, and that the Attorney General has independent authority to investigate and, possibly, prosecute their authors. I've pasted the full text of the letter below the fold.

We write with concern about proposals to prosecute previous administration officials for their legal analysis related to the CIA interrogation program. Pursuing such prosecutions would, we believe, have serious negative effects on the candor with which officials in any administration provide their best advice, and would take our country in a backward-looking direction at a time when our detainee-related challenges demand that we look forward. "We agree with your position that CIA interrogators, carrying out operations that had been deemed lawful by the Attorney General, should not be the subject of prosecution. Indeed, we addressed such a possibility in the 2005 Detainee Treatment Act, which holds that "good faith reliance on advice of counsel should be an important factor, among others," when considering whether CIA interrogators had good reason to believe that their activities were legal. "We disagree, however, with Administration statements suggesting that the lawyers who provided such counsel may now be open to prosecution. Some of the legal analysis included in the OLC memos released last week was, we believe, deeply flawed. We have also strongly opposed the overly coercive interrogation techniques, including waterboarding, that these memos deemed legal. We do not believe, however, that legal analysis should be criminalized, as proposals to prosecute government lawyers suggest. Moving in such a direction would have a deeply chilling effect on the ability of lawyers in any administration to provide their client - the U.S. Government - with their best legal advice. Providing poor legal advice is always undesirable, and the Department of Justice is currently conducting an internal ethics review of the OLC memos, but that is a quite a different matter from making legal advice with which we may disagree into a crime. "Given the great challenges that face our country in dealing with detainees currently held at Guantanamo Bay, Bagram Airfield, and elsewhere, along with detainees that will undoubtedly fall into U.S. custody as the result of future operations, we have every interest in looking forward to solutions, not backward to recriminations. That is why we do not support the idea of a commission that would focus on the mistakes of the past. "As you have made clear, we are a nation at war. Appreciating that reality, we look forward to working with you on the panoply of detainee issues, ranging from interrogation standards to the disposition of detainee cases, which will engage our country going forward. In the interest of national security, it is the future, rather than the past, on which we believe America's gaze must be fixed.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/trio_of_senators_ask_obama_not_to_prosecute_bush_a.php#more

ANY COMMENT FOR THEM, DU?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:49 PM
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1. Don't you guys know Obama has no authority to do that?
Of course you do you are not ignorant folks
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:51 PM
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9. They were so used to Gonzo being Bush's right hand man that they forgot their
basic separations of power.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:49 PM
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2. The Three PUTZkateers...
You all lost the election...mmmmmkay?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:49 PM
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3. That is a reliable bunch of idiots
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:49 PM
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4. Yep. Fuck you lieberman
He needs to be stripped of any power and it needs to happen immediately. He was given a second chance to be a Democrat and he blew it.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:50 PM
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5. Fah Q, Fuh Cue, and FUCK YOU, Joe
if those 3 are against it, I'm for it. I dont even need to know what it is for the most part
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:50 PM
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6. America is ruled by laws, not men. (nt)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:51 PM
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7. Sphincters say what?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:51 PM
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8. SeeNoEvil, HearNoEvil, and SpeakNoEvil are still employed,
I see. Usual suspects.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:52 PM
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10. If we don't prosecute them, the world will, and that makes us look
all the worse.

How the hell can we expect to be respected as a world leader if we can't even keep our own house in order?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:57 PM
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18. One suspects the rest of the world has a far more accurate take on our govt than our citizenry does
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:52 PM
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11. What this really means...
"...Pursuing such prosecutions would, we believe, have serious negative effects on the candor with which officials in any administration provide their best advice,..."

Future officials might be forced to offer opinions which rest within the confines of the fucking law! We can't have that now, can we?

Jesus fucking Christ!

.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:53 PM
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12. Hmm--Larry, Curly and Moe
so, the Senate Ho Caucus has flung its wadded panties at the President. Did they not hear him say the ball is in the Courts now?

McCain is just crazy, or should be ashamed.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:53 PM
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13. Hell no. Curly was awesome. Make one of them Shemp.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:54 PM
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14. And to think that John McCain could be our president right now. Truly frightening.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:05 PM
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24. That just reminded me. He buried a lot of Abramhoff shenanigans
in a ton of documents he declined to release when he headed the Indian Affairs committee. The new Dem chairman, whoever that might be, should release them.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:56 PM
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15. Asking a President to interfere in Justice is soliciting a CRIME!
This is NOT a Junta now, IDIOTS!
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:56 PM
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16. Larry, Mo and Curley.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:56 PM
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17. We really need to harass members of..
the United States Congress, rather than sitting back and watching what happens.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:57 PM
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19. Honestly, I could have freaking guessed. Those 3 are joined at the hip.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:58 PM
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20. Obama doesn't get to decide.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:59 PM
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21. So If They Don't Want Those That Adminstered The Torture Or Those That Rendered Legal Opinions .....
about torture to be prosecuted - are they for prosecuting those who wanted the legal opinions about torture so they can order torture prosecuted? Hmmmm....... Bush and Cheney.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:00 PM
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22. Winking, Blinking and Nod can fugg off
They're all 'scared shitless'. I wish I were a fly on the wall in DC.
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:00 PM
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23. They can go fuck themselves
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:06 PM
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25. Considering how inseperable the three of them were during last year's campaign
They probably have. :evilgrin:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:10 PM
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26. Unreal
Well, not really...as it is happening. But still...
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