Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Warren County (OH) to Obama: Keep your ‘filthy money’

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:38 PM
Original message
Warren County (OH) to Obama: Keep your ‘filthy money’
Two quotes really stand out here: “I’ll let Warren County go broke before taking any of Obama’s filthy money,” Commissioner Mike Kilburn said.

And: "I'm tired of paying for people who don't have," Kilburn said. "As Reagan said, 'Government is not the answer, it's the problem.'"

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/warren-county-to-obama-keep-your-filthy-money-90323.html

WOW. That guy has been drinking too much of the Kool-Aid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:39 PM
Response to Original message
1. My disgusting home state - it sickens me
I can only imagine how bad it's gotten there in the 25 years since I left
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. What's Kilburn's own track record like? Is he a government employee?
If so, he can lead by example and leave it; and no longer contributing to the mess he's helped make it in.

Corporations don't seem to be the answer right now either...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
3. The red part of Ohio
There are some really whacked out right wing nuts in this state. Warren County is just north of Cincinnati if that helps.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
4. Anyone wondering why Ohio is in such perennially sorry shape need only read this article
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
5. heh thats my little brother's district
he was at the tea parties. oh well, let them sink. so be it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. My cousin too!
high five!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
6. Yeah well let's see if he actually let's his country go under
or stay awash in a sea of red ink. Wouldn't surprise me to see a fool like this start beating his chest and marking his territory. Then when his words are forgotten several news cycles down the road he quietly accepts the money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
7. i'm always amused at how many self-professed government haters
rush to get government jobs and/or elected positions and cash their tax-funded paychecks (ron paul I'm looking in your direction)...these clueless twits are the same people who always rail against government incompetence...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
9. Perhaps the Commissioner should do some self-examination since he is apparently
part of the problem. I mean, isn't he part of the government?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
10. Mike Kilburn: F**K Seniors and the Disabled
"ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:49 PM
Response to Original message
11. LMFAO.... fine don't take it.
"I'm tired of paying for people who don't have," Fine. Well then I guess your private police force, fire dept, and post office can take care of your stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. But did you see? He's cool with money being spent on the courthouse expansion.
Gully said there is still a possibility the money could be used for efficiency improvements as part of the county courthouse expansion project, but a final decision has not been made.

Young said while the conservative board of commissioners is against the $787 billion stimulus package, even they might support using funds for larger infrastructure projects.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. LOL... oh man, these guys are caught between being a
good neo-con and being a good American. I bet they never thought they'd be in that position.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
13. Disabled, seniors and the needy- Let them eat cake.
From the article:

'DOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.'

There has to be a designation of a county filled with yahoos to notify travelers of the kind of district they are about to enter. I'm thinking along the lines of the Rotary Club signs at the edge of town
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
14. Warren Co.
did the lock-down of court house in 04.Not allowing reporters to watch counting of votes. Unprececented.
They said they were told to by FBI.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:54 PM
Response to Original message
15. "Government is not the answer" unless you need help in rigging an election:
Wednesday, November 10, 2004
Warren Co. defends lockdown decision

FBI denies warning officials of any special threat
By Erica Solvig and Dan Horn
Enquirer staff writers

LEBANON - Warren County officials, facing scrutiny of their decision to lock down the administration building on election night, say they were responding to a terrorist threat that ranked a "10" on a scale of 1 to 10.

The information, which Commissioner Pat South said was previously deemed confidential, is coming out a week after the public was barred from viewing the Warren County vote count. The Ohio Secretary of State's office doesn't know of any other county in the state to impose such a restriction.

County officials initially said they feared that having reporters and photographers present could interfere with the ballot counting. They subsequently cited homeland security concerns.

Now, they say an FBI agent told them that Warren County ranked a "10" on a terrorism scale. However, state and federal homeland security officials said Tuesday they were unaware of any specific threat against the county.

County officials locked down the administration building on Justice Drive after the polls there had closed. Officials say having both a polling place and the board of elections in one location increased security concerns.
-snip

http://www.cincinnati.com/text/local/2004/11/10/loc_warrenvote10.html

November 23, 2004

Warren County Lockdown was Premeditated!

As it turns out, the Warren County Lockdown was an entirely premeditated act:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041116/NEWS01/411160355/1056/news01






FROM 2004:
Warren County, Ohio: most successful voter registration drive in American political history, or stuffing the ballot box
by Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
December 1, 2004

Warren County, a traditional Republican stronghold northeast of Cincinnati, came to national attention on election night. While the nation awaited returns from Ohio, the state that would decide the election, county officials locked down the administrative building and prohibited all independent observers from watching the vote count.

An analyst who has all the vote data for 2000 and 2004 by precinct in several Ohio counties did a detailed analysis by precinct of the huge increase in Bush votes and margin in Warren county. This county first did a lockdown to count the votes, then apparently did another lockdown to recount the votes later- resulting in an even bigger Bush margin and very unusual new patterns.

Several very unusual patterns were evident in the history and the vote totals by precinct. The analyst concludes:

"George W. Bush’’s big win in Warren County was due to one of two things –– one of the most successful voter registration drives in American political history, or stuffing the ballot box. If the vote was legitimate, the records will show it. There will be a signature in a different handwriting for every one of the 16,803 newly registered voters, and for every one of the 95,512 ballots cast. If the vote was not legitimate, there will be a shortage of punch cards in the ballot box, or duplicate handwriting on the voter rolls, or fewer registered voters than reported."

Other counties and likely Kerry win in recount with fair rules: http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm



FROM 2006:
Free Press uncovers evidence of ballot tampering in Warren County, Ohio
April 19, 2006

After locking out all media observers and declaring a Level 10 Homeland Security Alert, the Republican-dominated Warren County, Ohio reported the vote tally in the wee hours of the morning on November 3, 2004 -- and gave George W. Bush a surprising 14,000 vote boost. Two election workers told the Free Press that the ballots had been diverted to an unauthorized warehouse where they had been possibly stuffed. That is, punched for Bush only. Maps were supplied to the Free Press showing the locations of the warehouse and the Board of Elections.

Warren County officials refused to allow the Columbus Institute for Contemporary Journalism to handle the ballots, but they did allow us to photograph a few. Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D., has analyzed the ballots for the Free Press and concluded that there is evidence of fraud in Warren County. The ballots as photographed with Dr. Phillips' commentary below each ballot are included here for the first time.

The Free Press predicted early on that the ballots would be found punched only for Bush in Warren County. The Moss v. Bush lawsuit pointed to Warren, Butler and Clermont Counties as the three counties that provided more than Bush's entire margin in the Buckeye State: Bush won Ohio by 118,000, and 132,000 votes were supplied in these three southwestern Republican counties.

Now, for the first time, the Free Press is releasing images of the obvious election fraud in Warren County. The Free Press will continue its ongoing investigation in Ohio despite stonewalling by Republican state officials. See the images by clicking on the link below.

View the actual ballots. (6.48MB -- PDF)

Additional Richard Hayes Phillips commentary (88KB -- PDF)

Additional Richard Hayes Phillips commentary (88KB -- PDF)





-snip

In Warren County, on Election Day, the board of elections declared a Level 10 Homeland Security alert for which neither the Homeland Security Department nor the FBI has any documentation or explanation. The alert served as cover for moving the vote count to an isolated warehouse, away from the media. Bush emerged from Warren County with a huge majority, far in excess of what he received in 2000.

Some 22,000 officially unused ballots from Warren County are now mysteriously missing.

Warren County Board of Elections Director Michael E. Moore has written Brunner, stating that, in complete defiance of the law, "They were not accidentally destroyed. They were destroyed pursuant to standard practices that had been used by the Board of Elections for many years in Warren County regarding unused punch card ballots." Moore notes that "The unused ballots were destroyed 60 days after the 2004 election."

Warren, along with neighboring Clermont and Butler counties, provided Bush with more than his entire 118,775 winning margin in Ohio 2004. Thus these three counties were singled out for allegations of fraud in the election contest case Moss v. Bush (though only after surviving the first ever congressional challenge to a state's entire Electoral College delegation). The allegations of fraud on a level that could have decided the presidency were thus never tested in court . . . and now the evidence has been destroyed.

-snip

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_2261.shtml







Warren County RECOUNT Report found here:

http://www.iwantmyvote.com/recount/ohio_reports/counties/warren.php




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
17. Warren Co's unemployment rate is "only" 8.5 percent
63 of Ohio's 88 counties are over 10%, 42 over 12%, 8 over 15% (Feb 09 numbers)

Ergo, Kilburn must have the answers!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
18. This is why I fucking hate Republicants with a blind passion....
...downstream in the article this c*******ing motherfucker indicated that he would accept money "for big projects" such as highway improvement. Yeah, you fucking ball gargler, so you can funnel it to your reach-around butt buddies I bet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
19. They don't like the filthy lucre?
Fine, I'm sure some other OH counties will be happy to get it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
20. Waaaaah, waaaaahh, waahhh.
Obama won Ohio.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
21. There really ought to be some grassroots pressure applied to morons like this
And to the moron governors who say the same thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
22. Republic rat bastard to old folks, "Fuck off."
“I’ll let Warren County go broke before taking any of Obama’s filthy money,” Commissioner Mike Kilburn said.

ODOT spokesman Scott Varner said the money was specifically for transit improvements in rural areas to improve transportation for disabled people, seniors and others needing access to health care and educational opportunities.

"I'm tired of paying for people who don't have," Kilburn said. "As Reagan said, 'Government is not the answer, it's the problem.'"


They don't even try to hide the hate anymore. Federal money for big-time contractor contributors, oh, hell yeah!

Money for public transport for the old, the sick, the poor, and the disabled?

NO FUCKING WAY.

Kilburn IS THE PROBLEM. He is supposed to be in government TO HELP THE PEOPLE!

I bet he's a Good Christian©, too.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 04:53 PM
Response to Original message
23. If Government is "the problem", why is he part of government?
He sure does sound like part of the problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. We should make that guy famous
We should make him the poster boy for the GOP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 12:23 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC