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Ok a bit of a joke,( And now also a pun :) ) but lots of writers of books and TV put different elements of different doctrines in there shows, it is interesting to see writers explore different thoughts in shows.
More seriously, I think I understand that doctrine, much of it is the same as fate.
You see it in Norse doctrine also, well put in 13th warrior.
Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan: How can you sleep at a time like this?
Herger the Joyous: The All-Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing.
The idea that we take part in existence with predestined roles.
The Joker doctrine, well said in batman films sometimes is a side effect of this, people think that they can not get out of the role they are in and life is just a joke, since they can't really make any choices.
Also shown in "are we dancers or are we human"
Monty Pythons, "the joke so funny when you read it you die"
And even that song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nTSU-mFWGs "The Show"
Also the watchtower speaks of joker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ncQgjIlFMThere are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke but uh
But you and I we've been through that
And this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now
The hours getting late(I am not saying you think life is a joke, I am saying a offshoot of thinking everything is predestined can be despair, and people thinking of Joker doctrine, or even Trueman Show, in which they only try to find a way out instead of defeating the perception that created the trap.)
The same guy that played the Joker, Heath Ledger, also was in a movie Knights Tale, although it has parts I disagree with, I think it was much better then his role as Joker. It was a story of one changing his destiny.
Offshoots also contemplate the reason for existence, taking it out of some purpose for man, but instead a purpose for a higher group. Like in "Trueman show" where the reason for existence is to entertain others. Or like Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, where existence is to solve some puzzle for something else, or like unimatrix one, where people are neural nodes given an illusion of existence so they keep the communal system running for some other purpose outside of there known existence.
BUT!!!
Joker doctrine proves itself false, for if it was true that a person has no free will or choice, then they could not enter into joker mode where nothing matters because of there belief in the doctrine. And more importantly the doctrine is there to create despair and keep people from thinking they can make a difference.
Same with show doctrine or many others where people might think everything is predestined, it takes away an attempt to try to make choices that are better. Since they may think it is predestined.
Most of this is what I believe to be a faulty view of time, predestination is the thought of no free will, or life without volition.
Here is how I think of it, yesterday, what did you have for breakfast, think back on what you first ate yesterday. Nothing is going to change that, because it happened, and you know it, and no matter how long you think or try, what you had for breakfast will not change. So viewing yesterday from today you think of it as predestined, there is only one thing you had for breakfast. But yesterday, when you chose jam or jelly on your toast, it was a free will choice.
What seems to be predestination, may not be a person not having free will, but an ability to know what a person will choose, and that can create an illusion of predestination.
If I knew you were going to have eggs tomorrow for breakfast, it would not mean you had no free will, even if it is predestined to happen, for the knowing of the future event is only knowing of the free will choice that will be made in a future time, it does not remove free will. This however is viewed as predestination by many.
My personal belief is God prepares the way for people, he can run existence forward knowing the position and place of every atom and know an outcome, so he can prepare things for people that many see falsely as a change in past, when it was only knowing the future.
Man does the same thing on a smaller scale. A person sees a stock price going up or down based on patterns. So he buys or sells the stock, then what he thought would happen comes true. In some way he knew the future, but that future was not predestined it was created by the choice of many people buying and selling on the market.
People don't think of the stock market example the same way as the things God does, because God gets things correct at such an amazing level that people think it is predetermination or lack of choice.
So I think I understand your view of loss of free will being part of enlightenment, but I overcame that long ago, and believe it a false doctrine, which means, someone in that form of enlightenment may not be correct, or I could be wrong. So either I would learn them right as I learn more, or they would learn I was right as they learn more, since ideas are contradictory. Either way, neither could say they are enlightened, since both have an area they can not say for sure is correct, but can only say they believe is correct. I find that interesting.
Basically I think the thought of lack of free will is a trap taking someone off the path to what could be called enlightenment, since it can stop a person from doing or thinking anything has a meaning. It also is why many say knowing of the supernatural is death, since when someone falls into the trap of thinking nothing can be done, they are said to be dead by many. I don't believe that either, but it is an argument to hide the supernatural and its existence from people. Which is a possible bigger motive to making people think they have no choice or no way to change anything. So they hide the existence of the supernatural, which is also said to be a goal of evil. Evil tries to hide the existence of supernatural evil, so supernatural good is also ignored, then in secrecy evil still does its work, but so many don't believe in supernatural at all that good in the light has more of a tougher road.
On the topic of non-doership. I know the things I see are not done by me, but I have free will, because there are many things I see that I choose not to discuss, and some I think are interesting enough to talk about. Quite simply I make choices, of what elements of the do-ers, I think on and share, thereby being a part of existence. If you were to say I do not make any choices, that I only think I do, then it would not make sense that my actions are not always correct, or that I make mistakes. Although its easy to say all that was part of destiny, but I can imagine existence in many different ways, and I choose how I want to. I am very confident in the existence of free will.
I can assemble pieces of amazing things and make an entire temporal lore story, that makes sense and could be a doctrine I chose to believe, but in honesty I found flaws in temporal lore doctrine, so I do not believe it. But I could follow that doctrine, And I could defend it, I know its arguments to some extent. But I choose not to.
I could make a compelling argument for aliens, but I don't because there are flaws in that argument, but I could make that argument, but what I see as flaws keeps me from making that argument. By choice of how I weigh the evidence around me.
The final comment should be on things happening the way God wants it to happen. "thy will be done" Leading to the idea and my belief that God's final choice of outcome will be the outcome. But that does not remove free will. If God needs a cup of coffee to be given to a person, he may ask a person to do it, the person may say no, and God may find another person to deliver the coffee. Either way the coffee gets to the person God wanted to give it to. But each person had free will to take part or not in the issue.
Jonah and the whale puts a different spin on this, where he was, well literally tormented when he refused, but I take some issue with that story, for me it seems the good side does not make demands but asked people, and sometimes bad things happen if they don't 'do', but it may be that's why God asked them, because it would help both them and the things God wanted done.
Did the bad things happen to Jonah because he did not go to the town and do as God asked, or because he had such hatred for the people or even fear of them, allowing bad things in his heart that then made bad things happen, might God's request been an attempt to get Jonah to give up his hate and desire for destruction of that other city, knowing it was best for the city and for Jonah, trying to get him to lose the hate or fear, that causes problems like belly of whales. Just a thought. But do you see how the perception of the story can change from God striking down a disobedient, to trying to help someone with issues of fear or anger. Another part of free will, the choice of how we view the world around us.
Edit: just watching that video by Lenka, she is so beautiful, and not worrying about the particulars of the weirdness is good, but I disagree with Joker doctrine. But I do like her :)
Also there was a carton from 1970s where there were a group of characters, yogi bear, scrappy do, and a bunch others. In one of the episodes they kept looking for a better place, finally they ended up in space, and realized they could make their own home better, and maybe that is the place they were looking for. That episode reminds me not to live my life waiting to be in heaven, but to make the things around me, by choice of actions and perception, a little closer to heaven on earth.