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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 01:56 PM Original message |
Is it just me or are new cars WAYYYYYYYY overpriced? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, I'm very disappointed with the high prices of both the new Prius and Insights. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. LOL. Foreign cars are too much for working Americans to afford. Wonder if there's a connection? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
103. I'm a working American and I own a Camry which has the same wheel base |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. I was looking, too ... and I was surprised. |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. I was looking at Malibu as well, but crap... $24,000.00 plus... Don't think so... n/t |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I know... |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. My Malibu is about 2 months old. It was $19,500 out the door. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. Subsidize the purchase of a new car? You've got to be fucking kidding |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
113. well for you we could |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. So when a question can't be answered just resort to a personal attack? |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
124. The Malibu was the only "car" we looked at when auto shopping last summer |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. Get a car that's a couple of years old. |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. With the new programs from GM |
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Cary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I have 138,000 miles on my 1999 Volvo S70 T5. |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
107. That's how I felt about my 1987 Camry--which is still in great shape |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
95. The price drops the minute you drive that new car off the lot, basically! |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. Agree. Anything mid-sized is ridiculous. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. So buy a lease return. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Yes, I just did in January |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. they load up a lot more options as standard now... |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. I've never purchased a *new* car. Only cars 1-2 years old. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
157. Me too! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. I bought my car when it was 8 months old, 6k miles. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
84. We paid 16K (& change) for a $35,000 car..less than 12K miles on it |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hyundai...incredible amount of car for the money, Consumer Reports top choices |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. And fuck union labor in your own country, right? |
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moez (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Problem is.... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. So you're comparing 80's vintage American cars |
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moez (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Just basing it on my own experience, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Deleted message |
moez (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Hmmmmm..... I've been a member about 4 years longer than you - |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. American autoworkers are NOT paid "twice as much". That's RW propaganda. |
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moez (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Your nonsense doesn't hurt my feelings at all - |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. And your lack of basic fact-checking isn't a shortcoming? |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:29 AM Response to Reply #60 |
109. OK ... It's time to put your money where your mouth is .... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #55 |
111. Duck-quack |
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moez (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #111 |
143. I don't give a shit who's to blame. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. How about you end your |
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moez (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. The facts just don't back you up |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. Are you intentionally ignoring what I said? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. My POS 2005 Dodge Caravan would disagree, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I support outsourcing IT for exactly the same reasons you don't support Labor. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You didn't read my post... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. You support Labor with actions. Your words are empty. nt |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Your head is empty. I DO support unions through my actions. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. When you are extolling the virtues of Hyundais on this message board you mean? |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Very different situation. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. LOLOL. Of course it is! Because it affects you and your state. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
120. And I Support Outsourcing IT and Buying 12 Year Old Used Cars |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #120 |
126. I love this. It's a circle of economic darwinism! I support P2P because creative types |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #126 |
155. You Think So? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
148. And many owners of |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
110. You are completely wrong! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
135. Really? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Not at all. I do a lot of work promoting unions |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. LOL. Some of my BEST friends are union members! |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. That's not at all what I said. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Non-union printers are cheaper. Why should I support YOUR labor if you don't support MINE? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Keep swingin' for the fences! You're striking out every time. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. It defies imagination that you keep on trying to bolster your union cred |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. No imagination needed. Just a modicum of honesty and intelligence. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #72 |
118. I don't think you get it: I don't care any more about you and yours than you care me |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #118 |
139. BTW, Hyundai's are UNION BUILT. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Not in Alabammy they ain't. nt |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
99. Why do you feel compelled to defend yourself against a shill for management. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Good point. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:37 AM Response to Reply #99 |
117. You kidding me? This guy was looking for the attention. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #117 |
125. We don't need to demonize you |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Wow, romulux has created quite the stir on this thread |
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Rosco T. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
73. You DO know that the Sante Fe is built in Alabama don't you? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Well, I knew it, but Mr. High-N-Mighty I'm sure doesn't care. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I don't support Southern state union busting. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Oh, I know that all too well! |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. By non-union labor. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Key words..."Whenever possible." |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
131. They are union built though... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #131 |
156. By what union? |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #131 |
159. Here is one example |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. BUYING USED DOES NOT HELP THE AUTO INDUSTRY! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Actually it DOES. |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
94. Most manufacturers have buyback agreements with rental car companies. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
122. Well, it depends |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. Easy Credit Fall Out... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. Did they pass the $5K credit for getting older cars off the road? |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Check out the property taxes and insurance you'll be paying before buying new. |
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Rosco T. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
81. Ahhh... no. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Fair enough, but ... |
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Rosco T. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #87 |
104. "Figure out how much that 3% loan is costing you over the life of the loan" |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
18. We can't even find a Ford van to buy for our boarding kennel. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
19. I have never purchased new. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. What kind of profit have car companies made recently? |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
82. Wow, that's a pretty dumb conclusion. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. So you think there's a much larger market for cars than currently exists |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
105. I don't think the definition of "overpriced" the OP used has anything to do with profit margins. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #105 |
145. True - meaning "new cars don't seem worth the effort needed to make them, to me" |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. Find a dealer that sells rental fleet cars that have low mileage |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's Not Just You |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. 2010 Mazda3 is a completely new design |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
26. The Malibu definitely is. That's a $17k car IMO. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Detroit lost a customer because of the Malibu. |
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960 (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
27. Well, imports are subject to huge tariffs by the US government. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. No they're not. Link? nt |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Depends on what you call huge |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. 2.5% is not huge. What is the tariff on a US car imported into Japan or Korea? |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I don't know |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Of course you don't. And you're not interested in finding out, either. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. You apparently are interested in finding out either. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:42 AM Response to Reply #68 |
119. I'm interested in pointing out hit-and-run anti-Labor posters. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #119 |
137. At least I have facts, something that alludes you. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #137 |
140. The word is "elude". Malapropisms are fairly common in your posts, however. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #140 |
149. Where have I pretended? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. Since when? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
89. No, not nearly enough actually. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
108. Really? |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #108 |
138. See post #46 but you have never been one for the truth |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
43. In the future |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I guarantee that will not happen in our lifetimes. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
101. If you're in reasonably good health |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. Then buy one with a few miles on it. People are giving their cars back and getting repo'd like crazy |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
50. Buy an old junker for a few hundred bucks. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. You got it. Been driving mid 70s cars since I began driving in the mid 80s |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
64. Some inflation statistics... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Comparing the two is silly. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. This is to be expected, though |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. And legacy costs more than offset those savings. nt |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. The legacy costs supposedly amount to $1600 per vehicle. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. I disagree, but at any rate it's missing the point. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Airbags and safety stuff sure do. nt |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Well, let's look at that Chevy Malibu example again. |
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Maeve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
67. We just got a new Chevy Aveo with 0% financing |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #67 |
132. Enjoy your DAEWOO |
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Maeve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #132 |
151. As I said, we've enjoyed the other one |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 01:52 AM Response to Reply #151 |
160. I can't bitch about it as I own a Hyundai... |
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Maeve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #160 |
164. We also got a free year of OnStar, which is nice when traveling |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #164 |
165. I had to have a tough 4x4 that can take the conditions here in the UAE |
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Maeve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. I understand--I have to hold onto the van for festival travel |
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Rosco T. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
75. How American is that car??? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
90. This has more accurate info: |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
88. Toyota Yaris: $12,205 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #88 |
102. close but not quite right... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #102 |
129. Zap cars. Three wheel, all electric vehicles, with solar panels |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #129 |
133. the shuttle and the zebra are cool |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #129 |
146. I've looked at the Zap. nice vehicles but the 3 wheeled car only does 40 mph |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
116. Union: Whatever! (PS: Thank GAWD it passed!) nt |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #88 |
128. Hey that's my car! |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
92. Yeah new cars are ridiculously priced. |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
93. NO! We are just WAYYYYYYYY UNDERPAID, thanks to cheap labor Conservatism! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
96. Another blast at GM. I think Japanese cars are way fucking overpriced. |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. I think my point was in support of unions... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #96 |
121. No blast here at all. Turn down the sensitive level. nt |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
98. They are giving huge discounts on |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
106. I bought a Dodge Charger R/T with all the fixins' in Jan '08 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Good post, Doug. |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
114. I'm afraid it's you, the phrase "Sticker shock" is not a new concept. |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:13 AM Response to Reply #114 |
123. A couple of years ago, nicer cars were cheaper than SUVs and pickups |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #123 |
136. What's on the sticker is really not all that important |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #136 |
144. Of course, this is part of the problem |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #144 |
152. Trust me, that was the exception |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #136 |
154. Five hours? I wouldn't have gone through that. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
130. How about an 18 month moratorium on sales tax for American cars |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #130 |
158. How about forcing employers to bring our wages up to where they should be! |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
134. I'm getting my new lease today. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
142. I have friends in the business |
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sfpcjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
161. The Camry LE is about $18K which isn't too bad |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
162. Say thanks to Inflation. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
163. I've been driving for 42 years and I've only bought new three times and American cars twice. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
167. Are cars overpriced, or are working people way underpaid? |
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david13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
168. It is you. Cars are way UNDERPRICED. That is why the |
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