Nora O'Donnell and Elizabeth Cheney are literally having a row over "torture" or "not torture"

I'm astounded how O'D is holding Cheney's feet to the fire. Cheney isn't backing down over the issue but neither is Nora O'D.

This is certainly one for You Tube. Elizabeth Cheney is such a sack of crap trying to push our country down the road of accepting torture because she says it produced results. It's obvious that she's articulate and clearly trying to protect her father.

daughters to combat the truth of his actions? Hmmm.

But I agree with you. They're running scared.

She is sitting there parroting every bullsh*t talking point in the books.

She is in serious need of a smack down.

Laura Bush made a career out of it.

What's the matter, tough guy, can't take it? Have to send your little girl in to protect you?

Cheney is a product of both parents who are both ruthless ideologues!

O'D came prepared for Daughter of Darth.

executed for waterboarding. Maybe Liz could write the "so sorry" notes.

Her focus is her father and only him and his cohorts like Addington.

of wrong doing, the grunts need to be released from prison, have their records expunged and be reinstated in the military.

I guess I owe her an email of thanks for what she's doing here today. A first for me having such respect for Nora O'D.

...asking if people haven't already decided about him. (in so many words) LOL

And Nora isn't doing such a hot job calling her out.

Man, Liz has her father's brain.

;)

of a 'truth commission' a 'congressional investigation' whatever the forum to get to the bottom of all of this. Then let the chips fall where they may. If he can't get behind such a review - than we know what really went on.

The cheney's are imposing their personal views to effect foreign policy. They can't stand that they are now powerless.

didn't fall far...

plus it doesn' t work

Excellent! Elizabeth on the hot seat. She couldn't have been happy with that no matter her calm "I don't agree with that." :rofl:

Cheney's tea parties were a flop. She basically ignored the question about Palin..

a couple weeks ago.."

I thought it was nonpartisan and spontaneous.

in Liz.

I feel slightly ill after watching her.

Her mother's voice & her father's self-righteous attitude, just to begin.

Boy, I really dislike that whole crew.

Wow - the Cheneys won't allow anyone else in the frame ~ he wanted to be there!!!

Lamenting that he couldn't get on.

He had this "Go Larry!" look on bhs face!


Hahahahaha

He's like this dapper, overaged mook.

Let's chip in to buy him a nice pack of his favprite smokes ..... Marlboro's my bet.

which crossing that line would be torture? What's that line exactly? Death? It's only torture if they die?

I was just trying to understand her reasoning of what lines there were and what constituted going over the line into torture. I'm guessing instead of 40 seconds of continous waterpouring they shorthened it to 20 seconds. :shrug:

.....that what they've wrought is a horror, unamerican and against the law.

he's steaming

the cheney's are some evil fucks

When the man with all the power has to send out his daughter to beg for him and she is beaten up by Nora, it's over.

They tortured people - end of that shit.

Rummaging through a bin of discarded books one day, I saw an unusual spine: "CHENEY The Evolution of Presidential War Powers 1988."

In 1988, while Dick Cheney was Wyoming's sole representative in the House of Representatives, his daughter's senior thesis was quietly published in Colorado Springs. The 125-page treatise argued that, constitutionally and historically, presidents have virtually unchecked powers in war. Thirteen years before her father became vice president, she had symbolically authored the first legal memorandum of the Bush administration, laying out the same arguments that would eventually justify Guantanamo and extraordinary rendition, wiretapping of American citizens, and, broadly, the unitary theory of the executive that shaped the Bush presidency.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/30/liz-cheneys-college-thesi_n_162712.html

It doesn't get results, of course-- but even if you accept the claim... so what? Murder "gets results". Rape "gets results". Theft "gets results". They're also illegal and immoral.

Don't forget, she worked for the state department as Deputy Asst. Secy. of Near Eastern Affairs. After a break to have a baby, she went back to work for the State Department as Principal Deputy Asst. Secy. of Near Eastern Affairs.

&category=Kingdom">She said this in 2005: