Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Larry Wilkinson on Rachael's show: "VP Cheney is a man who frightens easily."

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread		 This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:10 PM
Original message
Larry Wilkinson on Rachael's show: "VP Cheney is a man who frightens easily."
"Got 5 deferments from Vietnam. He scares easily. Politics of fear. The overreaction of these people to 9-11, as horrible as is was - is incredible."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
1. This is a stunning segment
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
29. I just watched the repeat
and it was pretty amazing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. Ok you two ..now I have to see it . Anyone out there got a vid link yet? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Answer my own post ..its in the video section link ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x302817
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #1
39. I agree and it makes sense totally. awesome segment I must say.
there is a cold wind blowing and it is coming for them
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:11 PM
Response to Original message
2. This is one of the most amazing segments..

...I've seen. Cheney has no where to hide now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:12 PM
Response to Original message
3. Paranoid.
It's a conspiracy, stupid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. I think his paranoia is a symptom of his heart disease
Of course I am a kind soul giving him an out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #5
16. Seems possible it is the other way around. His heart disease came after the paranoia
He has always been a coward.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. He had his first heart attack at 37
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/06/29/cheney.chronology/

You may be correct regardless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. LOL, Steph, he was dodging the draft WAY before then
He has always been a self-serving coward.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. I think it's the product of a deep sense that he does not deserve all of the money & power
he has. He is not where he is because of his own merits; he is indeed a mediocrity in all ways except his willingness to do harm to others. While others are told they will be rewarded ONLY if they are meritorious, he knows his power and money are not the result of merit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. I think he is paranoid because he knows what an evil bastard he is
and expects everybody else is the same.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. That's exactly right.
Not too long ago I was doing reading on personality disorders, specifically narcissism & sociopathy, and that's a part of it. They expect everyone else is doing and thinking the same things they are (trying to manipulate, lying), all the time. Which is why a lot of times you see a cheater accuse his or her spouse of cheating. I'm sure people who are out to kill, torture, start wars, fuck people in business deals, etc, are certain everyone else in the world is trying to do the same to him.
Good. I hope he's that scared, he deserves every bit of pain he has.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
34. Cheney's paranoia 
Could it be that Cheney's paranoia is the result of years of
alcohol consumption?  He's had 4-5 DUI's over the years and is
known to still tipple a bit here and there.  I've been around
well seasoned alcoholics enough to know that paranoia sets in
after just a few years and Dick's a well practiced veteran.

There might be a wee bit of schizophrenia in there too.  After
all he was the most powerful man in the world for 8 years and
his sidekick is a well seasoned alcoholic to boot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:22 AM
Response to Reply #34
49. Rumor has it he was drunk when he shot his friend in the face.
Wouldn't talk w/ police until the next morning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:31 AM
Response to Reply #49
50. He admitted to having "a beer" - who know how many it actually was >
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=441616
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #5
56. Hey, plenty of us with heart disease around who aren't paranoid
and wanting to use the Constitution like toilet paper. :P

Except, I got mine the old-fashioned way... I was born with it. :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
4. I actually felt sorry for Dick Cheney during that segment.
Evil often comes from something far more benign. The poor man could very well have been fearful. But then there is reality now. A hell of a lot of suffering. Sadly, no amount of prosecutions will bring back the dead and injured.

In my opinion, the crime was in not stopping the administration immediately upon hearing about anything even remotely illegal. It was a series of little ratchets, from Gore v Bush (or whatever it was called), to Congress voting to support a war. A lot of people played a role in this. I want to see a lot of prosecutions. Not just a dozen people in the admininstration.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. As a humanitarian, I feel some sorrow for Cheney as a fucked-up, heartless, bullshit artist.
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 08:25 PM by chimpymustgo
But his motives are evil. And he was overseeing the activities of NORAD on 9-11, as they "simulated war games" while the "attacks" were unfolding. Do the math.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Yes. Do the math. I'm not a pure passivist.
I have a lot of compassion. But there are things that kill my compassion. And one would be something like the PNAC. If Cheney really were reacting, I would have had a different opinion. He choreographed. He schemed. And so did many others. Plame's outting. There had better be massive time out for prosecutions. In fact, when I hear people saying that we may not have the time to do all of the things required right now, I have to say that there is no subject more important than this one. We can get our economy going later. In fact, the economy isn't going to leap to life soon anyways. And when it comes to war, nothing is more serious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #4
11. I can't imagine any sympathy for this sadistic pig
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 08:41 PM by santamargarita
Never turn you back on this bunch
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Ditto
No sympathy here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #4
21. You're correct, it all starts with Bush v. Gore
And the bogus SCOTUS decsiion that fucked us all. IMAGINE if Gore had been our President on 01/20/01.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #21
40. Actually, I'd say it started in Florida with Jeb Bush blocking black voters
and purging voter rolls and subverting democracy in general.

Yes, that version of alternative history is intriguing:

1. 9/11 terrorists arrested before 9/11
2. A real federal response to Hurricane Katrina
4. No war in Iraq or Afghanistan
3. An actual economy in 2009 as opposed to the black hole left by G. W. Bush
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #40
55. Agreed.
I was going to write that 9/11/01 would have passed as just a normal day in America.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
31. I'll feel a little bad when they inject him
...but in this case I think it's the proper punishment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. Naw, we don't want him injected.
We want him to die in his sleep in prison fearing another run in with Bubba.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #33
52. "Dick, meet Bubba"
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #4
48. oh no...
Edited on Sat Apr-25-09 01:19 AM by shanti
the dick is the last person i would feel sorry for. he and the rest of the pnac'ers coldly calculated how they would take down the u.s. before * was selected, and did exactly that. he's an evil bastard.

can't take it with you, dick!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
59. i can't even imagine
feeling sorry for cheney. the sick fuck deserves all the hell coming to him and much much more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:29 PM
Response to Original message
7. I don't buy it...
You don't accumulate the sort of power Cheney had if you frighten easily. He got the deferments because he didn't want to put his ass on the line if there was nothing in it for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Exactly.
I didn't buy that either. Like I said above, he schemed. He planned. He caused pain. And he caused far more fear than he'll ever feel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. I think he is a master of fearmongering to achieve his own nefarious goals. But essentially he is a
COWARD.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Yes, he most certainly is. Pathetic. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #7
32. I think "frightens" is probably a mischaracterization.
He needs to be in control which isn't exactly the same as being fearful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #7
58. You do if you are so afraid that you have to control everything.
Wilkerson is absolutely right. Cheney is afraid of everything as are most in the Republican "leadership" and party.

Cheney has to control everything around him because he is scared to death to live in a world where everything doesn't go exactly the way he thinks it should. There are plenty of people who accumulate tremendous power whose predominant motivator is fear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
12. Cheney shoots caged birds and then claims he went hunting
That should tell you something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. No shit.
He shoots his friend in the face, hides it from the press, then allows the friend to apologize to HIM. He's a cowardly POS.

Cheney Partied On, After Sending Whittington to the ICU --->>>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=441616
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
17. ReTHUGS overall are cowards
I noticed that they are afraid of everything and they try as hard as they can to make everyone else be just as fearful. x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
19. I think it's WilKERson, isn't it? He's pretty vocal. Colin Powell just says nothing. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. You are correct. I was watching and my jaw dropped and I started typing. Too late to edit. Thanks
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Been there. Done that. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
26. He must have ben scared shitless when pictures of his new house were posted on the internet. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:19 PM
Response to Original message
27. "Beware of those with a strong urge to punish...."
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 10:20 PM by defendandprotect
Cheney is scared when's he's forced into the open --

and I think he thinks he's defending himself . . .

someone may want him to take the fall?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. Bottom line is we have all been victims of Cheney's psychopathology
He is one sick fuck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:00 PM
Response to Original message
35. Maybe this will prompt Cheney into saying something stupid
After all, his manhood has been challenged. And since his death squad has been taken away from him, all he can do is act through his surrogates... or go directly to the media to try to salvage his "honor".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:05 PM
Response to Original message
38. Bush made a deal. He gave up something for not getting prosecuted himself. I bet he gave up Cheney.
Didn't you ever wonder why he didn't pardon anyone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #38
41. Imho, you give the torture president too much credit.
Cheney was the leader in this enterprise. His hand is all over it. I don't think Bush could shield him if he wanted to and he is too stupid to want to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:47 AM
Response to Reply #41
42. I agree.
He's the ultimate iteration of the idea of making sure the president doesn't know too much about what his administration is doing.

And by ultimate, I don't just mean that he surpasses the model of the Reagan presidency, with its Colbys, Poindexters, Norths, Negropontes, Bushes, Abramses, etc.; I mean (I hope) the ultimate expression where it exhausts itself by overreaching and collapses into itself, destroying all remaining impulses of momentum in that direction.


But it's late, and I might be getting a little hopeful in the wee hours of a remarkable day.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 12:51 AM
Response to Reply #42
43. What happened?!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. We didn't prosecute Watergate, BCCI, or Iran-Contra.
The law was bent by the people with money to bend it, and the power that flows up from the people was diverted into culverts and storm drains.

We may see this repeated; we're already engaged in the struggle to see that it isn't.






:hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #44
46. Let's see how we do.
:)

:hug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #46
47. Yes.
Let's see.

:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #41
54. How dare you accuse me of giving bush too much credit. jk
I am kidding of course. I agree that bush wasn't running the show, but don't think Cheney was either. I believe the bush crime family was running the show thru sonny-boy. Cheney was a tool of the bush crime family doing most of the dirty work, and sonny-boy was the front man. However, bush alone had the power to pardon. He didn't pardon Libby which pissed off Cheney, proving to me that cheney wasn't in control. I believe that the bush crime family made a deal with Pres Obama to save sonny-boys ass if he agreed not to pardon any of the admin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:15 AM
Response to Original message
45. Hey Dick...

BOO!!!

Heh heh, just kidding.

Dick?

DICK????

*grabs AED*





*throws AED in the dumpster*

:P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:01 AM
Response to Original message
51. A fearful Evil Coward is what Cheney is....and that fearfulness, cowardness and most of all evil, is
what was driving our country for 8 years and how many tortured and dead people and an illegal war? That piece of shit Cheney shredded our Constitution and the moral fabric of our great nation and still would do it if he still had his gobs of unimaginable power.

The people are slowly coming forward and speaking up because they all knew what Cheney was capable of - imagine if Wilkerson had said a year or two ago what he did last night on Rachel's show - he knows and we know he would have "died in a tragic accident" - or even just disappeared.

Cheney is an evil fearful coward and I hope he is brought to justice for the crimes he committed against this nation and the world. :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:35 AM
Response to Original message
53. Typical republicon - scares easily, lives life out of fear and hate
...rather than out of confidence and joy...

Almost enuf to make one feel pity for the abject poverty of the republicon soul.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
57. Cheney is problematic because we suspect him of far worse than we know
he's capable of, even if Fear drives him from within.

The more stridently offensive things he says are significantly mitigated by his disastrously low public approval ratings.

People don't like him much. And properly so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
adiabatic Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:07 PM
Response to Original message
60. No shit...if my heart was as black as his, I'd be terrified...and I'm an atheist!
:silly:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 05:15 PM
Response to Original message
61. That is how most republiCONS are..
they over dramitize everything and they are afraid of everything and everybody.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May 08th 2024, 02:02 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC