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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:39 AM Original message |
one for the grammar nazis |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. The first, although you will see more instances of the second... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I'm with you! NT |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Nope. Put the colon outside the quotation marks. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. I would do the second |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I would agree with you, and use the same disclaimer. |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. In the US, the second one. European English uses different "rules" for punctuation placement. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. British English doesn't put commas or full stops inside quotation marks either |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. It's the first one |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Not colons. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:45 AM Original message |
Colons always go outside a closing quotation mark. nt |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. Agree nt |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. Isn't this a punctuation question? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. The second one is more right. The phrase after the colon |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. One |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. This might help: |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. That's the easiest way to remember it the rules! nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. The grammar books say the first - |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. FWIW, I totally agree with you. n/t |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Will you also continue to use "thusly", complete with internal redundancy? |
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TheCoxwain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
13. If those are the only two options, the second option is a no-brainer. The colon has no place |
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Misskittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
15. I propose the admins create a Grammar Nazi Group. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. If so, I would rabidly protest missing commas in series' punctuation, because |
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patriotvoice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Oh, pretty pretty Oxford Comma: how I adore you. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
16. Not a clue |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Not colons and semicolons. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
18. Of course it depends on your style guide |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I'd put salt in your coffee. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. Neither sentence is grammatically correct. |
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Badgerman (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thank you...I was wondering if the obvious would be noted by anyone! lol |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Those are better, but you'd need a comma in #1. (nt) |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
23. no colon - comma inside the quotes |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. Back when I was in high school... |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
26. The colon is not needed. A simple comma |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I'm with you |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Yeah I think the colon actually causes more problems than it solves here... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
28. According to my copy of Harbrace College Handbook, #2 nt |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
29. The first is officially correct but logically incorrect. I would italicize |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I'm not sure the first is "officially" correct |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I was just guessing. In doing a search, I found that there's a National Punctuation Day. Sept. 24. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. ah, I see |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Me, too! Punctuation Day: Not Just for Punks Anymore |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
35. Colons always go outside the quotation mark * |
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Sheltiemama (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Associated Press style is the second one. |
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Papa Boule (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
38. It could use a "being that" |
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TK421 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
39. I say the second one is correct, since the colon wouldn't belong before |
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turmeric (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
40. The first looks better, but I do believe, in this case, the latter is more kosher. n/t |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. The Downfall of Grammar |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. OMFG |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
45. The second example. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
46. why would you use the word "nazi" to refer to people conversant with the rules of english? |
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konnichi wa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Seinfeld started it. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
49. The second unless it is a period or comma and then it's inside quotations. n/t |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
50. The second. |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I got a job as a technical writer |
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6000eliot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
51. The first is correct in the USA. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. I would go with the second |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
53. I have a grammar and usage site called _Grammar and Usage for the Non-Expert_. |
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riverdale (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Thanks for the link |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Apart from the quotation marks, the second phrase needs a subject |
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