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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:39 PM Original message |
Is Archer-Daniels-Midland (ADM) the distributor of the tainted wheat gluten? |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. What do you wanna bet that, if ADM WAS involved, we'd never find out. |
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northofdenali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. K & enthusiastically R |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. HA! Nice find - I was checking on this possible link |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Read two books "Rats in the Grain" and "The Informant" to understand AGM and the industry. |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. and the past 2 years |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Their CEO has said.. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. If so then we are fucked. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. my thought exactly |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. barney could die and the chimp still would do nothing |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Chimpy ain't protected either. This would affect all 300 million of us. |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. I wouldn't be surprised if they were |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. So the supplier was American and sent it to Canada? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Do you know of any major Canadian producers/distributors of wheat gluten? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Duh...I don't know...that's why I asked. |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. ADM-Oglivie is Canada's largest wheat gluten supplier. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 06:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. I read just a little while ago that it was an American supplier but I can't |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. ADM Dalian, China |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. ADM Hong Kong/Shanghai |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Operates all over the globe and |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. And takes advantage of Federal small biz contracts..despite NOT being small! |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R - Great Post... |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. Ironic that a book about ADM is entitled "Rats in the Grain" |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Even better is "The Informant" by Kurt Eichenwald about a real ADM price-fixing case. |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I'll check it out and thanks! ....n/t |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
16. Doesn't make any sense! |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Because extracting gluten from wheat is a manufacturing process. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yeah, I *know* the reason, but I still can't make sense of it. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. See this thread-- |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. We can't produce enough of our own wheat gluten to meet manufacturers' |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I use it in making bread at home. Only the organic stuff, though. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. What a surprise, that the FDA would shield ADM from this... |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
23. Kick and Rec n/t |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. There are the major GOP contributors that I was expecting. That's the only reason that this FDA |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. k & r - let's hope this eventually proves to be the chink that pulls the whole wall of globalization |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. political contributions |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. We are so screwed. ADM will never be outed by this administration. |
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greyghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. Where are... |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. evening kick |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-02-07 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. Update: ADM has a wheat gluten mills in Kansas, and the tainted food came from Kansas. |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Why would they have an industrial agriculture plant... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Emporia is Menu Foods' pet food plant. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
34. ADM's CEO is former oil exec |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. ADM investigated in the past by DOJ |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Gramm is definitely New World Order Illuminati |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Andreas is a CFR and Bohemian Grove member n/t |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
38. I don't think so. Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Company Ltd |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. It's the American based distributor that is in question |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Yep, seems like a pretty strong hint! nt |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. This is what we are all suspicious of FDA slowness to shut |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Why am I not surprised that FDA won't name the U.S. distribution company? |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
55. And they broker their gluten directly to Menu Foods themselves? |
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Bluestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
42. Great find! |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
48. Vertical integration gone wrong |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
51. ADM gives heavily to Dems in the Mid-West, too. So there's reason why |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. Why do republicons HATE America's dogs? |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Why do DEMS not care either? |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
54. Kick & Rec -- n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
56. ADM is big in Ethanol as well |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. ADM violates the law consistently |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. More on ADM selling tainted feed. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Wow, corporate euthanasia |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
58. Cannonfire gives his take on this. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
60. ADM manufactures all of the so-called "potatoes" you see from soy and banana stalks |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. New Update: CSM -- whom ADM sold its biggest wheat gluten division to |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
62. New Update: Wheat Gluten Imports From China Up from 0.6 million in 2001 to |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. And what is the FDA doing about this HUGE increase in imported Chinese foodstuffs? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. These two posts deserve a new thread.... |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Thanks. n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. So how long have we been eating poison? n/t |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
65. I say watch their stock info |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. yes, always follow the money n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
66. This is environmental as well |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Yes! Where the HELL is the United States Congress on this? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-03-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. Kick! n/t |
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